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Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:58PM (#22427253)
I'm a software engineer. What matters is the code I produce. If I wear a tie, the tie does not wind up in the source code control system. If wear jeans, the compiler does not care. You're confusing the trappings of professionalism for the actual professionalism. They are not the same thing.
Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:00PM (#22427833)
I think it's possible to invest a whole life under someone's thumb being compared against KPI's and other metrics and get neither professionalism nor the trappings of it

Taking the trappings even when they're not on offer is the way to show the intention of taking the substance of the thing because I refuse to be bought and sold by people who don't have the same understanding or appreciation for this discipline

Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:51PM (#22427755)
You're naive if you really believe that how long have you been in this industry

Do you seriously believe the software you produce in isolation has any bearing on the world outside your window?

The only thing that matters is the quality of communication within the organization and most organizations behave like casually dressed socialist dystopias producing code that precisely reflects the petty squabbles and false power struggles that go into it

You're being bought and sold by management bros high fiving each other and missing

Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:40PM (#22428234)
How long have I been in this industry? 35 years. Your view does not accurately reflect my experience in this industry.

Two unrelated suggestions for you:

1. You can edit a comment for two hours after you submit it. You don't have to keep making parallel comments or replying to yourself.

2. Use punctuation. It would make your writing much more readable. (And if you're not trying to be readable, then you're just wasting your time and ours by posting here.)

Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:59PM (#22428883)
But don't fool yourself into thinking these kids entering the industry now are facing anything like the same conditions we did in fucking 1985
Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:58PM (#22428871)
Ah then you're as salty as I am good on you bro do as you fucking well please
Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:01PM (#22428894)
But don't fool yourself into thinking these kids entering the industry now are facing anything like the same conditions we did in fucking 1985
Re:Silicon Valley Ruined Work Culture by artsyca on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:03PM (#22428918)
Also you're meant to read my comments like Chris Walken just pause when you please and extract any sort of meaning you wish after all we're all just shouting at ourselves by proxy