If I follow that line of reasoning, then React (by Facebook) and angular (by Google) are also no good, considering the reputation of the companies.

So what would you use then?

Ember just got a facelift with Octane, and they’re open source & have a good community for support.

What did his comment say?

> I find the core team involvement of two of the biggest Chinese companies a bit worrying as somebody who tries not to support unacceptable totalitarian politics in that country, considering that it's not a secret how obedient the big companies have to be in order to even exist there. A pity because it's a great framework and community, I just can't ignore that aspect..

not sure why it was flagged I think that is an important aspect for some people who don't know.

I feel somewhat the same about using a Facebook product. (Enough so I'll take my chances with China).

I expect neither is actually malicious.

FB is just a mirror and amplificator of society including its bad parts, the outcome depends on each individuals education, self awareness and environment.

I try to avoid it because I know how shitty people can be, and because I know myself, not because people exploited it as a tool.

China is outcome focused and tries to surpress the bad sides of humanity with force, neglecting humanity by not accepting its bad parts. As shitty as FB may seem, it's not really comparable. From a humanist point of view, one model is clearly wrong, malicious or not.

Let's get the logic straight here:

- The Vue project has more than 20 core team members and hundreds of contributors from all over the world. There are currently TWO active core team members working for big companies in China.

- These two core team members make their contributions to Vue on their own will. The companies they work for do not dictate how they contribute to Vue, nor do these companies have any control over how the project evolves.

- These Chinese companies do have to comply with local government regulations to be able to operate in China. Does that make every business in China evil? You have to realize that the Chinese government !== everything China. People in China needs to live and work, that means they have to grow their economy and start businesses regardless of what kind of government they have to put up with. Equaling running a successful business in China to supporting totalitarian politics is like equaling being successful in America to supporting patriarchy and white supremacy.

Yet here we are: "Avoid the project because evil China." - quite a stretch, isn't it? By the same logic, projects directly owned and controlled by a company that has been the most significant contributor to political misinformation probably should be avoided at all cost too. Yet to you it seem to be no big deal. Just gotta love the double standards here.

> - These two core team members make their contributions to Vue on their own will. The companies they work for do not dictate how they contribute to Vue, nor do these companies have any control over how the project evolves.

I believe you.

>- These Chinese companies do have to comply with local government regulations to be able to operate in China. Does that make every business in China evil? You have to realize that the Chinese government !== everything China. People in China needs to live and work, that means they have to grow their economy and start businesses regardless of what kind of government they have to put up with. Equaling running a successful business in China to supporting totalitarian politics is like equaling being successful in America to supporting patriarchy and white supremacy.

The human aspect of the regulations are the problem, so it's not a good comparison because you can run a business in the US without supporting patriarchy and white supremacy. The system is able to change if people vote and consume differently.

This isn't possible in China (you can't run a business that's not aligned wit the gov) because you can only consume from aligned sources, therefore the only way things could change is backlash from abroad, from boycot.

It's a difficult situation for you and chinese people because nobody wants to get sucked into a conflict, but I hope that you understand my viewpoint too.