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Re:Mozilla’s DNS over HTTPs by kibwen on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @09:30AM (#22413480)
We are headed toward that future because the broader network has proven that it cannot be trusted; it should come as no surprise that user agents would develop defense mechanisms. If this is another step toward ensuring that ISPs are nothing but dumb pipes, I welcome it.
Re:Mozilla’s DNS over HTTPs by vetinari on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @10:22AM (#22413845)
This is another step toward ensuring that _you_ won't have any visibility what applications running on your computer do, where they connect and why.
Re:Mozilla’s DNS over HTTPs by Avamander on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @10:48AM (#22414075)
Unless OSs quickly implement DoH, if they did, software makers won't have any excuse to roll their own opaque ones, aside of malicious reasons.
Re:Mozilla’s DNS over HTTPs by user1980 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @10:50AM (#22414096)
End-to-end TLS is dead.

It started with PCI compliance. Next up was Corporate IT making sure idiots weren't signing up for Dropbox with their LAN password. Schools: Well, they always used proxies with no expectation of privacy whatsoever so traffic inspection was nothing new.

In 5 years TLS-recryption -- whether through software or a hardware middlebox -- will be as ubiquitous as a NAT firewall is now. The only question is if the keys will be in the hands of the consumer or in escrow with Big Gov.

The idea that anyone in their right mind would allow uninspectable traffic to egress their network is beyond ridiculous. I'm glad that DoH is making people realize that.