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Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by BlueTemplar on Sunday February 23, 2020 @12:49PM (#22398272)
Well, this part didn't age well :

> Another extremely strong network effect is proprietary chat systems like ICQ or AOL Instant Messenger. If you want to chat with people, you have to go where they are, and ICQ and AOL have the most people by far. Chances are, your friends are using one of those services, not one of the smaller ones like MSN Instant Messenger. With all of Microsoft’s muscle, money, and marketing skill, they are just not going to be able to break into auctions or instant messaging, because the network effects there are so strong.

Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by leetcrew on Sunday February 23, 2020 @03:38PM (#22399366)
I think it's basically true though? the way I remember it, AIM only died once Facebook messenger rolled out. Facebook messenger was only viable because Facebook already had a huge number of users. if you were already "friends" with someone, it was even easier to message them there than it was to ask for their AIM username.
Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by scarface74 on Sunday February 23, 2020 @12:55PM (#22398310)
Doesn’t that kind of argue the point though that you don’t need government to interfere with tech to avoid monopolies and anticompetitive behavior? The market took care of that.
Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by BlueTemplar on Sunday February 23, 2020 @01:37PM (#22398603)
ICQ and AOL basically died. While Microsoft bought Skype and basically morphed it into new-MSN. So Microsoft's slow growth, long-term strategy succeeded, while it shouldn't have (?).
Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by leetcrew on Sunday February 23, 2020 @04:38PM (#22399718)
I don't think this is really a counterexample. skype was already a widely used product when microsoft bought it. joel isn't arguing that you can't have enough money to just buy a product that already has a large network of users. also (iirc), skype only took market share from aol in the first place because it had a killer feature aol lacked: video chat. network effects mean you can't be replaced by a similar service, not that you can't be disrupted by a new product with a unique feature that people actually want.
Re:Intuit to buy Credit Karma for $7B by scarface74 on Sunday February 23, 2020 @01:57PM (#22398745)
You consider Skype to be a “success”?