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Re:A Brief History of California’s Housing Crisis by thereisnospork on Saturday February 22, 2020 @10:01PM (#22394808)
> I'm sorry you're unhappy with how zoning and local governance exists today, but that's the hand that has been dealt.

A hand that has resulted in the ""housing crisis"" which is why we are here talking about why and how it should be changed.

Re:A Brief History of California’s Housing Crisis by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 22, 2020 @10:40PM (#22394956)
No one with the authority to change it is talking about changing it. No one invested in the status quo is willing to delegate the necessary authority to YIMBYs or their surrogates.

You’d be asking existing and potential property owners to vote against their own interests. Progress isn’t impossible, but it’s going to take decades to make meaningful reforms.

Re:A Brief History of California’s Housing Crisis by closeparen on Sunday February 23, 2020 @12:16AM (#22395282)
The NIMBYs are so stunningly effective because they're the only people engaged on the issue, not because their values are actually universal.

Like anything else in politics, it's a turnout game. Development regulation is an obscure issue. There's a lot of room for people who would be okay with denser cities (and thus haven't paid attention) to learn about it and show up.

And then of course there's the movement we're already seeing in state legislatures.

Re:A Brief History of California’s Housing Crisis by toomuchtodo on Sunday February 23, 2020 @12:19PM (#22398057)
We’re saying the same thing: progress might eventually occur, but the outcomes will be for the next generation of CA residents.