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Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by tasubotadas on Friday February 21, 2020 @10:52AM (#22383984)
Really?

"Like many EU countries, the general retirement age in Greece is 65, although the actual average is about 61. However, the deeply fragmented system also provides for early retirement – as early as 55 for men and 50 for women – in many professions classified as unhealthy."

55 and 50!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-to-ca...

Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by lucianoq on Friday February 21, 2020 @11:20AM (#22384258)
Average in 2011 was 61,9 yo for Greece and 61,5 yo for Germany. This is an average between all the jobs, classified unhealthy and not.

But although it was less than Germany, let's say 60 or 59 or even 55:

1) lenders knew it, so it's also their fault on not weighting the risk well or not asking for an higher interest rate or avoiding giving them money at all. To check is their responsibility.

2) IMF decisions brought an increase in suicide rate and children mortality rate. Are the lenders allowed to bring death to the borrowers? Is this illegal for the mafia but allowed for IMF/ECB/EC?

Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by champagneben on Friday February 21, 2020 @12:23PM (#22384853)
> 2) IMF decisions brought an increase in suicide rate and children mortality rate. Are the lenders allowed to bring death to the borrowers? Is this illegal for the mafia but allowed for IMF/ECB/EC?

How does one make this claim? What would the alternative have looked like? It's not like the IMF just decided to tank a healthy economy.

Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by leto_ii on Friday February 21, 2020 @11:11AM (#22384169)
Conveniently, Greece is just below Germany in the table, making for easy comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement_age#Retirement_age_...

Regarding early retirement, I'm sure this is the case in many "industrious" countries too. You probably don't want 65 year olds running around in combat boots with a machine gun and 20kg of supplies on their back.

Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by kriberg on Friday February 21, 2020 @12:43PM (#22385028)
But Germany would afford a low retirement age, while Greece could not. It is an unfair comparison, as not all other facts are equal.
Re:Varoufakis to Publish Notorious Eurogroup Recordings from... by claudiawerner on Friday February 21, 2020 @12:01PM (#22384636)
A low retirement age is a good thing; it is a symbol that society does not prize labour just as much as it appears to. It is an affirmation that we work to live, not live to work.