You won't see death by starvation. You'll see something like death by flu after malnutrition weakens immunity, or death by overdose after malnutrition weakens decisionmaking.

Oh sure, I suppose my family could have lived digging through landfills like the wretchedly poor do in Ethiopia and Indonesia and elsewhere. And perhaps I wouldn’t have died, just been left permanently physically and mentally stunted by malnutrition, certainly not coming out of the ordeal in any state to perform the fairly high-level job that I have today. The income taxes that I pay with the large-ish salary that I was able to get because my brain was not stunted by malnutrition as a child have already paid for the food stamps that the government invested in my well-being many times over, by the way. That is what welfare does: it works, and in the long run it pays off in spades.

"Well, at least there aren't a lot of people literally starving to death" isn't exactly a glowing endorsement of the system.

Especially in the UK, where there literally are people starving to death now.

People in the US who live in a comfortable six-figure-middle-class bubble really have no idea how precarious their position is.

All it takes is one expensive long-lasting serious illness and they'll be out on the street with the other people who "made poor choices."

> All it takes is one expensive long-lasting serious illness and they'll be out on the street with the other people who "made poor choices."

You declare bankruptcy, your assets are divided up among your creditors and you start over again. That's why bankruptcy exists. Several (most?) states even let one keep one's home. Maybe we need a law to prevent landlords from refusing to let based on prior bankruptcy — would have to think that through. Bankruptcy is not (or at least should not be) the end of the world.

It's hard to start over out of a box.

Starvation isn't literal in this context. One can intellectually starve a child. One can have a child be stagnant in their growth, for example by not having them play.