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Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by ralfd on Thursday February 20, 2020 @11:39AM (#22376295)
> Red heads are less than 2% of the population and yet if you built a classification system that failed to identify them as people that wouldn't be seen as acceptable either.

So the solution would be to not identify _anyone_ as people? As a ginger I doubt that.

Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by foldr on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:00PM (#22377021)
The solution would be to accept that the classification algorithm was too error probe to be usable for non-toy applications.
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by ralfd on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:33PM (#22377344)
We are going in circles. An error rate of 2% (heck! 20%!) would not make a classification unusable, that was what one of the grandfather posts was arguing.

https://adssettings.google.com/u/0/authenticated

Here Google can infer my gender and my age and personal interests just from my search history. I am sure this is not perfect either, it is still immensely useful for advertising.

Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by lordCarbonFiber on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:51PM (#22377529)
Not the best example, given google lets you toggle your ad segments when they get them wrong and isn't baisising that guess based on physical presentation; the ad segment "male" is just a comment on the things you search and click on.
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by natalyarostova on Thursday February 20, 2020 @06:49PM (#22379710)
Why are you imposing the error tolerances the user should have? Shouldn't that be their choice?
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by lordCarbonFiber on Friday February 21, 2020 @09:21AM (#22383257)
If someone wants to build and train their own model that assigns a binary gender based on pictures that's their own choice, and because of that freedom they can't force google to do it for them.
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by natalyarostova on Friday February 21, 2020 @12:40PM (#22385003)
Right, it's just that usually the concept with goods and services is that you're paying someone else to do it for you because you either can't or don't want to.
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by foldr on Friday February 21, 2020 @02:41AM (#22381558)
If I'm the author of the tool, I can impose whatever I want, no? It's not like people have a God-given right to have Google tag photos with genders for them.
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by EvgeniyZh on Friday February 21, 2020 @12:29PM (#22384893)
So the best argument to do is the fact that you have a legal right to?
Re:Cloud Vision API will not return gendered labels such as ... by foldr on Friday February 21, 2020 @06:04PM (#22387901)
The argument in this case is that the potential for misuse outweighs the potential benefits.