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Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by rahidz on Thursday February 20, 2020 @07:09AM (#22374469)
>@GIGCarShare told us to sleep in our car on the side of the road and try again in the morning

...i...what...but why...that doesn't even make sense?...

>Gig told us we used our “allotted restarts” of the car

why is this a thing? if i rent a car from enterprise etc, they don't care how many times i start the car up, it's paid by time...just seems like yet another needless over-complication

also i wonder if these cars have similar issues in parking garages where cell reception is less than ideal.

Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by reustle on Thursday February 20, 2020 @08:57AM (#22375066)
I've had this issue multiple times with Car2Go inside buildings with little to no service
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by nradov on Thursday February 20, 2020 @09:51AM (#22375421)
Multiple times? Why didn't you stop using Car2Go after the first time?
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by aikah on Thursday February 20, 2020 @07:19AM (#22374520)
> ...i...what...but why...that doesn't even make sense?...

From the article

> Basically, a phone unlocks the car using a combination of cell service and Bluetooth. So when you're out of cell range it can be difficult to unlock the car.

> They were unable to ping the car because, I don't know, they hadn't updated, or synced, the software in 24 hours.

My understanding is that it works like scooter and bike sharing services, where you have to have an active connection to their servers to use the vehicle. Of course, while it works in the city where there is 3G/4G coverage, it's not going to be efficient in the middle of nowhere where coverage is unlikely... so sometimes convenience (AKA it's just an app) becomes a hindrance. Who's fault is it? (rhetorical question)

Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by akuji1993 on Thursday February 20, 2020 @07:27AM (#22374567)
> Who's fault is it?

The developer's fault. How this is even debatable is beyond me. Completely failed on the UX level.

Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by vsareto on Thursday February 20, 2020 @09:20AM (#22375205)
Someone probably told the developer to implement it that way.
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by dwild on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:44PM (#22377459)
How is that the developer's fault?

You unlock the car with your phone over your data connection and not with a key. Losing the data connection is the equivalent of losing the key. You may not like it, I know I don't, but that's the downside of doing it this way (just like it's a downside to have a physical key because you can lose it too).

I have no doubt that the developers warned management of the risk of doing it this way, they accepted the risk.

Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by closetohome on Friday February 21, 2020 @04:08PM (#22386752)
Whether the restriction is reasonable or not is up for debate. The issue is that they created a vehicle that only works within a specific geographic area, then failed to document that area or warn users that it existed.
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by btbuildem on Thursday February 20, 2020 @09:56AM (#22375442)
Devs just do whatever they're told. It's likely the PO's responsibility to think through how this should work.
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by williamdclt on Thursday February 20, 2020 @09:53AM (#22375431)
Rarely are developers in charge of UX
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by dwild on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:41PM (#22377430)
Who is downvoting this guy and why are you downvoting him? This makes perfect sense. This isn't Reddit where you upvote/downvote based on your opinion, you downvote if the information isn't factual.
Re:Stranded after driving out of cellphone range in app-powe... by rahidz on Thursday February 20, 2020 @12:18PM (#22376645)
I get that part, but why would sleeping overnight and trying again in 8 hours be a solution?