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Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by ChuckMcM on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:08PM (#22370078)
Larry was a great thinker. I got to discuss "vi vs. emacs" at one of the Fellows induction ceremonies held at the Computer History Museum. He could easily articulate counter cases and keep the discussion both productive and quite civil!

I first met him while I was visiting my wife at her office in Xerox Business Systems (XBS). He came over to discuss some suggestions to improve the protocol she was working on. I thought he was one of her co-workers because the discussion was very peer to peer as opposed to top down. She corrected me to point out he was one of the movers and shakers at PARC. That left a very positive impression on me.

He was also "the other Larry" at Xerox. Larry Garlick, who was also "Larry" to most people, was also at XBS (as was Eric Schmidt) and later followed Eric over to Sun.

Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by m0hit on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:13AM (#22373077)
Only tangentially related but I loved reading this interview with him from Computer History Museum https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/20...

It’s not the same impact as the video interview in Designing for Interactions but covers a lot of ground from Larry Tesler’s perspective.

Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by haeberli on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @09:41PM (#22372266)
Eric Schmidt was, as I recall (which was when I was there), at PARC proper, doing his PhD thesis research and writing his thesis. But as Larry Tesler's interaction showed, there were fluid interactions between at least some people at PARC and the XBS and Xerox Star teams.
Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by mrandolph on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:36PM (#22370356)
Which side of the debate was he on personally?
Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by ChuckMcM on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @06:50PM (#22371414)
He was very much in favor of modeless design, which emacs is much closer to than vi is. My argument was that emacs still has modes, operationally. You can make it a debugger, a mail reader, or a text editor by invoking code that puts it in that "mode." So the discussion quickly becomes what is meant by 'mode' and how are operational modes different than semantic modes which are different than presentation modes. If you haven't guessed it was pretty memorable for me, it helped me see some insights into the difference between design and engineering.
Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by ilaksh on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @05:02PM (#22370570)
I'm not sure that debate was really important since it's clear that his real answer was 'none of the above'.
Re:Larry Tesler Has Died by troymc on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:54PM (#22370488)
I'm guessing Emacs, because vi has modes and he was not a fan of modes.