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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by BiteCode_dev on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:01PM (#22370008)
It took me by surprise too, but now when I give a training, I make sure I include how to:

- read a stack trace

- find things in the doc

- use the debugger

Most people, professional devs, signing up for my __advanced__, yes, specifically requested to be advanced, Python trainings, don't know how to do this.

Again, I try to be extremely nice about this, because nobody likes to feel inadequate and I'd rather have people learning happily this and improve their life and work.

It takes a lot of courage, if you are 40 and being in the field for 2 decades to admit you need to go back to this.

But it's not what I was expecting from the industry.

Hey, it makes me feel useful :)

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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by ci5er on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @05:21PM (#22370734)
Given that Python belches stack traces anytime you look at it funny, I can't understand how that could be...
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by jschwartzi on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @06:18PM (#22371199)
Hey man, I * scrolls back 6 pages * love a good stack trace.
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by enedil on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @06:38PM (#22371323)
Good that there is a stack recursion limit in Python.
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by tomrod on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @08:38PM (#22372026)
I see you too forgot a comma once in a Java program.
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by KptMarchewa on Thursday February 20, 2020 @10:25AM (#22375675)
Template compilation errors in C++ were at least 300kb last time I've tried to use that language.
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by jschwartzi on Friday February 21, 2020 @03:33PM (#22386432)
I've gotten my fair share of those from use of Boost.
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Re:Hackers Were Inside Citrix for Five Months by blaser-waffle on Thursday February 20, 2020 @01:20PM (#22377225)
My guess would be that a lot of coding is autodidactic, aka there is a lot of self-learning, trial and error, etc. This means you learn a lot of bad habits, or develop gaps that a formal training course would avoid.

So when you get to something that is complicated and has the potential for deep strategies and shortcuts for efficiency (e.g debugging), it's no surprise that experienced coders might want a refresher.

Impostor Syndrome may be a thing there, too.

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