Re:Why Susan Fowler blew the whistle on sexism at Uber
by scott_s on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @01:37PM
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Propositioning a woman who you manage at work is sexual harassment and sexist.
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Re:Why Susan Fowler blew the whistle on sexism at Uber
by magduf on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @03:33PM
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Sexual harassment? Sure. Sexist? Sorry, no, that's just silly. By your logic, if a male manager only propositions female subordinates, it's sexist, because he isn't also propositioning male subordinates. That's not sexist, that's a side effect of the male manager being heterosexual.
By your logic, every person that only dates people of a particular sex is "sexist", which is completely ridiculous.
Re:Why Susan Fowler blew the whistle on sexism at Uber
by scott_s on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @03:40PM
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You're thinking that I label the behavior sexist because the manager propositions only women and not men. I am not. I am labeling the behavior sexist because it contributes to both a work culture, and the wider culture, which excludes women from status and power.
Re:Why Susan Fowler blew the whistle on sexism at Uber
by magduf on Thursday February 20, 2020 @12:51PM
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I don't know about this; it isn't completely unheard of for female managers to proposition male subordinates, it just doesn't happen as often obviously. I think it's wrong and abusive, no matter which sex does it (and to whom; (gay) men propositioning other men happens too), but I have a hard time seeing how this is "sexist" or only harmful to women, though obviously, due to inertia I think (more men being in positions of power), it negatively affects women more. I will grant you, however, that it can be argued that it contributes to keeping the gender-unequal status quo.