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Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by godelski on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @05:38PM (#22361161)
> deepfakes are being used to spread propoganda.

Do you have examples for us? Okay if it is in Arabic/Hindi/etc. We talk about the potential for damage here (on HN) and so I think it is important to have examples of this happening in the wild.

Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by sabman83 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @05:42PM (#22361204)
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by mc32 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:41PM (#22362622)
It’s more meta fake (presentational deceit) than fake (factual deceit).

Is it fake when a pol speaks token sentences to an audience in a language the pol is very limited in?

Is it unfair if a multilingual pol has command of many languages vs one who doesn’t have such command?

What is an even field? Natural ability, happenstance of wealth (opportunity to learn) or happenstance of exposure (and natural learning).

Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by pec9912 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:04PM (#22361366)
Here are 3 videos - one original and 2 fake: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMqreF-0f3RhdfD6f7gO4dQ
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by 616c on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:19PM (#22361483)
I voted you up since I want examples but Hindi and Urdu and South Asian languages can be written in Arabic script, but they are not in fact Arabic. The former regardless of writing systems are linguistically way closer to English.
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by godelski on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:22PM (#22361500)
Thank you. I was just trying to say that I am accepting of deep fakes that aren't in English. Maybe that would have been more clear.

If these exist, I think it is important to show them and track how they are being used. Hopefully it can help us avoid similar pitfalls in the future by learning how they are used.

Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by dmd on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:22PM (#22361501)
Nobody said they were.
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by downvoteme1 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @05:50PM (#22361259)
That is not a deep fake. That is like saying a modified Trump video speaking Spanish to appeal to Latino voters is a deep fake.
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by HeWhoLurksLate on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:31PM (#22361560)
That would be false information- if someone cannot do something, and doctored video is trying to cover for that weakness, then the video is faking it.

Ergo, it is fake. Overdubbing a person's voice? Questionable.

Making someone look like they're speaking a language they don't know? That's faking it.

Using AI to help out with your fakery? That's deep down the rabbit hole

Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @07:24PM (#22361881)
Deepfake is the technology, not the intention. All those videos where someone replaces everyone in a movie scene with Nicholas Cage, or whatever, are deepfakes even though they're not intended to fool anyone.
Re:Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for u... by godelski on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @05:54PM (#22361290)
I don't think you meant to reply to me. Because I'm asking for examples of these deep fakes...