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Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by jacquesm on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @05:28PM (#22361072)
There are some youtube videos of people that have built their own drone mounted handguns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI--wFfipvA

There was another one of a rifle shooting at balloons from a drone, but I can't find the video for that.

Not quite a 'missile' but the basics seem to be relatively straightforward and within the budget of hobbyists, the DARPA program is mostly about scaling it up and dealing with the recoil and mechanical and thermal stresses associated with mobile launch platforms. Drones are severely weight constrained so getting this to a level where it is combat ready is harder than it might seem. I'm personally not sad about that, I think that any 'remote kill' capability comes with its own special set of problems and that we are very far from being ready to handle that responsibly, witness the current assassination programs.

Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by neltnerb on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:24PM (#22361512)
Not to knock on hobbyists doing cool projects, but to me "missile" means "at least supersonic if not hypersonic".

I guess the article is light on details there, but I get the impression that this is intended to be a way to send a very fast (and so hard to shoot down) missile at a target with the ability to fire multiple smaller missiles or simply to fire bullets at enemy aircraft from a vastly closer range where it's onboard sensor suite will be far more effective against enemy aircraft countermeasures.

Or simply to provide much more active countermeasures against AA sites shooting the missile down.

Something incredibly fast that uses a computer to rapidly analyze and respond to sensor data to respond with a variety of lethal options sounds terrifying and I don't especially want it to exist. But I can see the appeal of having a new missile that stands a much better chance of striking a target to make actual global adversaries think thrice.

The new cold war... yet we still have citizens without food security or health care... priorities I guess.

Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by starpilot on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:48PM (#22361659)
Missile usually just means guided. The tomahawk cruise missile is subsonic, among others.
Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by jacquesm on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:55PM (#22361708)
Missile usually just means something shot at something else. It doesn't need its own propulsion and it does not need its own guidance system. A stone from a slingshot counts as a missile by the normal definition.
Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by starpilot on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @07:01PM (#22361758)
I'm aware of the etymology. Mitto, mittere. In modern ordnance context, missile = guided, rocket = unguided. Even though both use rocket motors (and here they usually say motor rather than engine).
Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by globuous on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:30PM (#22362290)
Balistic missiles aren't really guided. They're closer to the slingshot approach.
Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by Aenyn on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @04:32AM (#22364152)
But they are guided though, how else would the different warheads be able to have different targets when they are all launched in the same missile.
Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by neltnerb on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:01PM (#22362107)
And is what distinguishes it from a drone the type of flight?

i.e. rocket plus some fins vs wings?

Re:DARPA Wants Millions to Design an Unmanned 'Flying Gun' U... by taneq on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:11PM (#22362177)
A missile is something that flies through the air with the intention of hitting and damaging a target. The exact mechanism of propulsion is orthogonal to the purpose. A stone from a sling is a missile, as is a pulse-jet-powered drone packed with explosives, as is a quadcopter with a kilo of C4 strapped to it.