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Re:Can you use PHP without frameworks nowadays? by arnorhs on Friday February 18, 2011 @11:35AM (#2236064)
I agree completely and my experience/progression through the years was exactly the same as yours.

I didn't end up using Zend, but I've always looked at the various frameworks and "stole" some of the ideas and applied them to my own.

I do believe developers that say you don't need a framework simply haven't created very many different projects - OR - They've been using the wrong framework.

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