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Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by api on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @12:26PM (#22357832)
From what I've seen AMD's recent chips beat (sometimes outright destroy) Intel on multithreaded tasks, but on single-threaded tasks it's still a bit of a toss up and depends on the work load. Intel seems to still come out ahead on some heavy numeric and scientific type work loads, especially if vector instructions are used. The differences are not huge though, and AMD solidly wins on price/performance even in cases where it's a bit slower in absolute performance for single threaded work.

At this point Intel literally only makes sense if you have one of those single threaded work loads where it still excels and you absolutely must have the fastest single thread performance.

Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by dilyevsky on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @12:48PM (#22358147)
Is that with spectre/meltdown/etc protection on?
Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by imajoo on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @03:56PM (#22360327)
AWS patched their hosts back in 2018 which caused a huge shitstorm in terms of performance lost across various workloads..so yes.

https://blog.appoptics.com/visualizing-meltdown-aws/

Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by dilyevsky on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:45PM (#22362376)
Afaik amd patches aren’t as penalizing as Intel ones. I have no idea if ^^^ refers to bare metal, bare metal w/ patches or cloud env (unlikely) hence the question.
Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by imajoo on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:52PM (#22362417)
The link above is specific to AWS -- hence, "Visualizing Meltdown on AWS" as their title.
Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by api on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @01:27PM (#22358674)
Don't know, but for pure numeric code these mitigations are not (AFAIK) that expensive. The main cost is incurred for any code that is syscall-heavy like I/O.
Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by dilyevsky on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @08:46PM (#22362383)
Pure numeric benches aren’t very useful irl tho. My hunch is with security patches single core will be very comparable
Re:New AMD EPYC-based Compute Engine family, now in beta by blattimwind on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @01:02PM (#22358368)
These are VMs, the hosts have to run with these mitigations enabled.