Is the TiddlyWiki experience at all like their website? I found it immensely confusing. Rather than navigate between pages (which is how a wiki is supposed to work?) every link I clicked on that page opened a new sub-window right below, which both messed up the existing page structure and also made the current page URL useless for bookmarking.

Yes, their website is actually implemented as a TiddlyWiki itself.

I think their UX takes a little bit of getting used to and can be improved. This project in particular wouldn't be incredibly difficult to modify, so it didn't worry me too much.

Regarding permalinks, there's actually options you can configure both to show a button to copy a permalink to a tiddler as well as to display the correct permalink in the URL bar.

It's exactly like that, the page runs itself on TiddlyWiki

This comment introduced me to TiddlyWiki, and I am quite happy with it so far. Does anyone have a recommendation for a markdown plug-in? The markdown plug-in from their website is no longer available. Thanks!

I haven't looked very far, but if there isn't a decent plugin for it yet, it likely isn't incredibly hard to make.

Here [0] is a link to a view I created that links to a markdown plugin (which should still work) as well as to information about TW's plugin architecture. If you're interested in learning even more about TW's internal architecture, check out their developer documentation here [1].

[0]: https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FPageControlButtons...

[1]: https://tiddlywiki.com/dev

This is great! Thank you. Do you have any other plug-in recommendations that you have found useful?

I'm still exploring myself, but you should check with me in a few weeks! My website (which has my email) is in my profile!

I've looked into it a few times now, each time I get a little closer to actually using it. Currently I've moved from the "What? I have to install a browser plugin to save changes?" phase to "I guess I'm going to have to sit down one weekend and find a hosting setup I like for this tool"

I'm definitely interested in tiddlywiki, but there's so many options it's a little overwhelming on first glance. What does your implementation look like?

Actually, I started out by just using the simplest saving method possible, which is downloading a new version of the HTML file on every save. It seems clunky but isn't that difficult to do.

I branched out to using the Tiddloid Lite [0] Android client, (Tiddloid and Tiddloid Lite are both free and open source, the Lite version just has a different feature set,) and I just uploaded my previous wiki into Google Drive and the app just worked... saving became completely automatic and it syncs to Drive without a hitch.

I'm looking into standing up a TiddlyServer [1] soon for my upcoming project, and I'm planning on eventually doing some modifications to do data storage in a database instead of on disk.

One thing's for sure: it's got a great gradual way to "get into" using it... it just isn't great at communicating those options in a way that isn't overwhelming.

[0]: https://github.com/donmor/TiddloidLite

[1]: https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer

Have you found anything like a hybrid between OneNote for its drawing/handwriting-with-stylus support + Roam or TiddlyWiki for the graph-like organization?

When I first looked into digital note taking about 8 years ago, I was in love with OneNote and the idea of using my computer to take written notes with a stylus. Unfortunately, I don't think there are good serviceable solutions for this, even today. As I've gotten more and more serious about note taking, I've found that my desire for digital handwritten notes has shifted.

My current setup:

- I use an Onyx Boox Note 2 to take handwritten / drawn notes when I feel a strong need to do it digitally. It has an ePaper screen that's super smooth. The notes stay on device and are backed up (but not synced to my Tiddlywiki)

- I keep a tiny paper notebook with me at all times for jotting down ideas and thoughts that appear in my head during the day

- I copy abridged versions of my paper notes into Tiddlywiki at the end of the day or the week to reflect on them and to have them be indexed and searchable.

This solves the awkward problem of handwriting recognition being utterly unserviceable for my handwritten notes, ensuring everything that matters is searchable since I copied it manually. It isn't too much work.

Seconded! I've been looking around, but nothing seems to press both of these buttons. It's a deal-breaker for me, as I often think by sketching. In my notes, doodles are first-class citizens.

If you're an apple device user, Bear Notes is pretty good. You can link to any note from within any other note, so it's wiki-like in that sense. And it does have sketching.

What about Trillium? (https://github.com/zadam/trilium)

I used to love it, but I realized typing latency kills it (being electron). Also, export doesn't help as note links are internal references. So it's not future proof, it's a no for me. It has a great developer though. And the graph visualization is second to none.

> Also, export doesn't help as note links are internal references.

During export Trilium fixes the internal references to standard HTML links so they reference pages in the structure like "./sub-folder/my-topic.html" (but yeah, it was not always like that).

Check out Agenda, MarginNote 3, or Zotero