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Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by olliej on Saturday February 15, 2020 @03:05PM (#22337607)
Um, American drug companies created the opioid epidemic, and then fueled it with aggressive marketing, kickbacks, and bribery.

Fentanyl is a relatively recent addition to a crisis those companies started in the early 90s.

Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by nate_meurer on Saturday February 15, 2020 @03:46PM (#22337855)
So, do you have anything substantive to say about the article? Do you disagree with anything in it? Did you notice that the article actually agrees with you?:

> And so, when we're talking about who's to blame for the fentanyl crisis, we've got to start at home. Why is the demand so high? But in terms of China, and that's what I really focused on in my book in large part, China is not only doing a poor job stopping fentanyl from getting exported to the US, they are even encouraging it in a lot of ways, through the tax code and all these complicated ways that add up to a really troubling situation.

Do you disagree with any of that? Do you believe that China's massive and uncontrolled supply had no effect on the opioid epidemic?

Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by DanBC on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:23PM (#22338087)
> Do you believe that China's massive and uncontrolled supply had no effect on the opioid epidemic?

That's not a bizarre position to take when most addicts started on prescribed meds, whether those meds were prescribed for them or diverted from friends and family members. People move onto fentanyl when they've developed a tolerance for prescription meds and can no longer get higher doses.

Why don't other places have such a big problem with fentanyl?

Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by nate_meurer on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:37PM (#22338163)
I don't have a strong argument against that. And I've never seen convincing evidence that a drug-war-type focus on restricting supply is worth the cost.
Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by dntbnmpls on Saturday February 15, 2020 @08:03PM (#22339163)
> Do you disagree with any of that? Do you believe that China's massive and uncontrolled supply had no effect on the opioid epidemic?

There isn't a fentanyl epidemic in japan, sweden, etc. So can't blame the "supply" here. "China" isn't making and sending these drugs for the hell of it. Somebody is ordering it and someone is distributing it. And it ain't the chinese.

Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by Mountain_Skies on Saturday February 15, 2020 @03:38PM (#22337807)
Could someone explain what is incorrect about parent's statement for it to deserve downvotes? It seems to be in line with the prevailing narrative of the past decade or so.
Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by nate_meurer on Saturday February 15, 2020 @03:48PM (#22337876)
Maybe starting out a comment with "um..." as though everyone else is stupid, and then following up by merely restating the prevailing narrative, which has little to do with the assertions made in the article. Maybe that's a reason for some of the disagreement.
Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by happytoexplain on Saturday February 15, 2020 @07:43PM (#22339079)
There are many ways in which a post can have low, or even negative, value. Being "incorrect" is only one, and a relatively rare one.
Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by Eoan on Sunday February 16, 2020 @01:54PM (#22343129)
Jingoism
Re:China's role in the U.S. fentanyl epidemic by saber6 on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:17PM (#22338402)
It is a MVC: Minimal Value Comment