Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by tatersolid on Saturday February 15, 2020 @10:30PM
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> Eons ago I wondered why the IRC and NNTP protocols weren't being improved.
For the same reason SMTP hasn’t meaningfully improved in the last 25 or so years. It’s an ossified protocol because of all the competing implementations. Moxie is right about that bit.
HTTP and HTML are slightly different because of the huge dollars backing implementers, but there are still significant features not in one or more if the major browsers, and adoption of HTML5 was actually pretty slow.
Basically, open standards sound awesome, but they quickly get frozen in time due to compatibility constraints.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by Razengan on Sunday February 16, 2020 @08:27AM
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So we really have no one to blame but ourselves.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by HereBeBeasties on Friday February 14, 2020 @06:04PM
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It sounds like you are looking for Matrix.org (and Riot.im)
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by Marsymars on Friday February 14, 2020 @06:30PM
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Doesn't answer your protocol question, but Textual is a really fantastic IRC client for macOS with various modern capabilities.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by ObsoleteNerd on Friday February 14, 2020 @05:00PM
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> Eons ago I wondered why the IRC and NNTP protocols weren't being improved.
Is being worked on now:
I still do.
The AIMs and MSNs and Skypes came and went. Now it's the WhatsApps and Discords. Every one of them trying to reinvent the wheel the should have just been fixed 20 years ago.
But why has nobody sat down and said, "Here's a better IRC, here's a reference client, here's the source code, knock yourself out."
It's still not too late you know. In fact, there has never been a better time (and need) to revamp those classic platforms for the modern era. With services like GitHub and AWS, it should be easier than ever to collaborate on building ever better clients and hosting servers etc.
Here's my wishlist for improvements over what I can remember of IRC:
• Mandatory encryption for client-to-server and direct peer-to-peer.
• Server-side chat history, spam filtering and DOS resistance.
• Ability to send binary data like images, audio, video and arbitrary files in public channels and private chats.
• Message deletion and temporary messages.
Basically a decentralized Discord (which is a centralized IRC to begin with.)