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Re:California’s housing crisis: how a bureaucrat pushed to b... by darksaints on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:14PM (#22329931)
Fact: No YIMBY, no matter how powerful, can force you to put something in your back yard. They can allow your neighbor to put something in their back yard. You don't own your neighbor's back yard.
Re:California’s housing crisis: how a bureaucrat pushed to b... by hannasanarion on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:56PM (#22330318)
Fact: NIMBY doesn't refer to literal backyards.
Re:California’s housing crisis: how a bureaucrat pushed to b... by darksaints on Friday February 14, 2020 @04:46PM (#22330724)
Of course. Which nullifies any argument about whether it is Yes-in-my-back-yard or yes-in-your-back-yard. You only get to make that distinction if you're talking about your own literal back yard.
Re:California’s housing crisis: how a bureaucrat pushed to b... by notJim on Friday February 14, 2020 @05:25PM (#22331007)
I think this comment is accurate just from a logical standpoint. Backyard has two possible meanings here:

* Literal backyard: in this case, then maybe one could argue that if we accept the premise[1] that YIMBYs aren't homeowners, then they are in fact arguing about other people's backyards.

* Figurative backyard: in this case, then whether someone is a homeowner is irrelevant, because the backyard refers to the general area, shared by all residents.

Of course, as we know from this thread, backyard in [N|Y]IMBY refers to the figurative backyard. Therefore, we must reject the argument that people are arguing over other's backyards.

[1]: As I argue elsewhere in this thread, I don't think we should accept this premise.

Re:California’s housing crisis: how a bureaucrat pushed to b... by jellicle on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:20PM (#22330015)
Civilization is a balancing of competing interests. Your rights in your property are enforced by the community, with limits and conditionally. The community which you are asking to enforce for you has interests too.