Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by sorenjan on Friday February 14, 2020 @12:36PM
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That's exactly why Google Allo was a no go for me from the start. I'm using Telegram now, and their desktop client is great. Any mobile first solution is uninteresting for me, and that includes hacks where messages are routed from my computer via my phone.
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Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by jahlove on Friday February 14, 2020 @02:43PM
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Google Hangouts is pretty great, so of course Google is discontinuing it. I always have email open anyway, so its very convenient to fire of a chat while I'm on desktop.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by sorenjan on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:47PM
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I've used Hangouts since it was Google talk and used xmpp. I used several different multi protocol programs to connect to Google talk, Microsoft messenger, ICQ at the same time. Things where different back then.
Now I try to get as many as possible to get away from at least Google and Facebook services.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by interestica on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:00PM
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Encryption only available for mobile chats, right? And "secret" chats won't be available for the desktop view.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by sorenjan on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:41PM
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All chats are encrypted to and from the client, but only secret chats are encrypted end to end. And yes, secret chats are only available on mobile.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by maqp on Saturday February 15, 2020 @12:09AM
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The point of encryption is to protect content from third parties. TLS-like encryption where messages can be read by server, is not protecting the content this way, therefore, calling it encryption is misleading. When average user asks "is it encrypted?", they're not asking "Oh I totally get that the developers can access the content but is it safe from passive eavesdropping in the network backend?", they're asking "Can anyone else read the messages?", i.e. "Are they E2EE?". To which the answer is no.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by metadaemon on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:31PM
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This is unfortunately correct, but I still prefer Telegram to other chat clients.
Re:Signal is finally bringing its secure messaging to the ma...
by derefr on Friday February 14, 2020 @03:05PM
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I mean, given the Signal protocol, the alternative would be your messages being routed from your phone via your computer. And the average person's computer isn't on/awake/connected to wifi as often as their phone is, so that'd be a much spottier experience.