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Re:Ask HN: I don't like Rails. Am I missing something? by mkrecny on Thursday February 17, 2011 @01:07PM (#2232016)
I agree. Based on conversations that I've had with rails gurus (I'm in a co-work space with pivotal labs) the essay-like queries are definitely a code smell. I think the guy who has laid the relational foundation for the app I'm working on (and taught me all the rails I know to date) has done so in a non-Railsy way.
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Re:Ask HN: I don't like Rails. Am I missing something? by pestaa on Thursday February 17, 2011 @02:18PM (#2232371)
Yes, and it's not Rails only; every framework that uses Active Record (and that covers the vast majority) requires this sort of approach.

"Skinny controller, fat model" is not as easy as it sounds.

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Re:Ask HN: I don't like Rails. Am I missing something? by frankus on Thursday February 17, 2011 @03:35PM (#2232710)
Not to sound flippant, but there's your first problem. Rails really doesn't want to be layered over an legacy database schema. Doing so would definitely lead to essay-like queries.
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