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Re:Burnoutindex.org by leto_ii on Thursday February 13, 2020 @01:36PM (#22320123)
> We make a shitload of money

Not exactly true outside certain areas, mostly in the US. In The Netherlands for example > 80k euros is considered pretty good pay.

> so much of what we do is boring, and, in the greater scheme of things, pointless

This I would say is actually quite a big problem, one that can lead to burnout in the longer run.

Re:Burnoutindex.org by nly on Thursday February 13, 2020 @02:15PM (#22320487)
€80K in the Netherlands puts you in the top 1.5% of household income[0]

That said, it's possible to be in the top few % in a major metropolis anywhere in the world and still feel 'average' simply because the cost of living is so great and you're spending >50% of your income on housing.

[0] https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/visualisaties/income-distribution

Re:Burnoutindex.org by leto_ii on Thursday February 13, 2020 @02:20PM (#22320531)
I'm not really saying that 80k is a little - it's not. It's more than fair - just not a shitload.

Note however that the chart shows disposable income, which I'm pretty sure is the one after tax. 80k gross is more like 48k after tax.

Re:Burnoutindex.org by luckylion on Thursday February 13, 2020 @01:46PM (#22320224)
> In The Netherlands for example > 80k euros is considered pretty good pay.

More than twice the average income? I don't know whether that qualifies as "shitload", but it's not that far away, no?

Re:Burnoutindex.org by leto_ii on Thursday February 13, 2020 @02:18PM (#22320509)
Well, in the US the equivalent would be around 200k USD. You should also take into account the marginal tax rate of 52%, which yields a net income of a bit below 4k/month.

I'm not really complaining, mind you. It's nice to live in a country where basically nobody sleeps on the street, medical assistance is available (if you really need it) and basically free, the infrastructure is great etc.