News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Why are we so bad at software engineering? by joe_the_user on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:11PM (#22315277)
> 1. Software is easy to fix. Compared to other construction disciplines, software is the cheapest to fix.

You could just as easilty as say software is extremely costly to fix. Software is labor intensive so fixing it can cost a lot of labor of extremely high paid people.

But really, I think the way to put it is "software seems much easier to fix than a physical object." It seems that way to the software engineer and to the manager talking to the software engineer.

Not only are there no physical reminders of how difficult changing a given piece of software is but the challenge is primarily in the unexpected and the illogical. Fixing routine X would be easy if it wasn't unexpectedly and/or illogically tied into a variety of other functions. And this stream of unexpecteds is extremely easy to forget/discount.

Re:Why are we so bad at software engineering? by mdonahoe on Thursday February 13, 2020 @01:49AM (#22315833)
Software fixes can be costly, but they are easier than most other fixes at scale.

Doing a recall on a popular hardware product is orders of magnitude harder than issuing a software update for that same product.

There have been a few scenarios at my job where it was easier to just solve a problem in hardware, but once a bunch of hardware gets shipped, only software can save us.

Re:Why are we so bad at software engineering? by joe_the_user on Thursday February 13, 2020 @02:40AM (#22316016)
It's easier to update the software than change the hardware. But you the problem that software can never fixed through the multiple iterations of updates - through the complex of the software and because the company pushes new features with new bugs along with the bug fixes.

But my comment above wasn't really to say software was more was less costly than hardware. It was mostly say that software is more unpredictable than hardware.

Re:Why are we so bad at software engineering? by Aaargh20318 on Thursday February 13, 2020 @05:57AM (#22316757)
> You could just as easilty as say software is extremely costly to fix. Software is labor intensive so fixing it can cost a lot of labor of extremely high paid people.

Developing a fix for a software issue can be expensive, deploying the fix is relatively cheap in today's world with automated software updates.

Compare to e.g. fixing a design flaw in a car, where the development of a fix can be relatively cheap but deploying it (recalling all affected cars to the dealer to have new parts installed) is pretty much always expensive.