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Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by ASalazarMX on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:15AM (#22310027)
If they had proof they would have showed it already. Nothing would help their rhetoric more than cold hard facts.

If they haven't done it, it means: a) there isn't any backdoor, or b) exposing their backdoors would expose their own backdoors.

I'm betting on b.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by the_duke on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:35AM (#22310241)
Alternatives:

- Revealing how the backdoor works would show methods the US agencies are also using.

- There are multiple backdoors, or there might be, and they don't want to tip their hand.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by ApolloFortyNine on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:22AM (#22310110)
c. They have sources saying as such but have not discovered the backdoor itself.

d. Admitting how they found the backdoor would reveal other issues (a source in the pipeline, or their own backdoor in something Huawei made use of).

And probably e-z too.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by LoveKebab on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:36AM (#22310247)
Yeah exactly - providing proof publicly could in fact burn the sources/methods used to get that proof.
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Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by throwaway17_17 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:30PM (#22310741)
I wouldn't say your 'e' is at tin-foil hat level. But your assertion that since Trump is president any attempt to establish that Huawei is flawed from a security perspective is some 'corrupt' plot by Trump to benefit him financially is pure political imagination. Go ahead and take issues with Trump, his policies, his words, his actions, I don't care, but please do not pretend like just because Trump is president that magically the PRC and companies which are essentially controlled by its government are some kind of benign actors. Trump and has taken a hard-line against anything China since he ran in 2015, his anti-Huawei is very much in line with that stance. Also, Trump was pretty clear he wanted an American first economic policy, which makes it obvious he would be anti-expansion of any Chinese technological products.

TR;DL Trump being president has not a thing to do with whether or not Huawei and the PRC are attempting to infiltrate the network and data infrastructure of the world at large.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by chmod775 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:06PM (#22310535)
Considering their history of outright lies I'm betting on a).
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by jariel on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:47AM (#22310354)
"If they had proof they would have showed it already. "

A) They did show 'proof' ostensibly, to the specific agencies of interest i.e. UK/Germany.

B) Your 'a' and 'b' are missing the most important point, in that the revelation of their knowledge may compromise some ongoing intelligence program. The information may very well have been provided by spies who'd be put at risk.

Literally yesterday WaPo published a story on the most comprehensive US intelligence program ever and it quite nicely illustrated the challenges of how to reveal how much you know, and the consequences therein.

This is not 'open source land' where we like complete transparency, it's a different game.

C) There's also another issue, and that this may not be 'black and white'. For example, the ostensible 'back door' may not be clear cut: it may be that it doesn't yet exist, but there are elements in the design prepared for backdoors to be very easily added at a later date.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:23PM (#22310670)
When was this? Just because in around Nov 2019 a GCHQ spokesman said Chinese backdoors went an issue with UK's dependency on Huawei for 5G (but other risks, network shutdown in times of conflict might be present).

Could you (or anyone) link a source where the NSA, or other USA agencies discuss this with technical detail?