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Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by r6754dw on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:05AM (#22309913)
Definitely the Chinese, simply because their foreign policy is much less violent than that of the US, and they don't try to forcefully export their political and economic system to other countries.
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by throwaway17_17 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:23PM (#22310664)
Because the fact that China has not engaged in non-local applications of violence, they must be better than the US? That seems to be an amazingly narrow standard, because by that measure any country which carries out atrocities on its own population is 'better' than the US. I understand, even if I may not agree, some individual's dislike of American foreign policy, but to equate America's actions in the last 20 years at a global level with a nation-state which is (according to press reports) imprisoning and potentially torturing and killing those of its own population who meet certain ethnic and demographic criteria seems absent any amount of perspective.
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by 80386 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @02:29PM (#22311919)
> Because the fact that China has not engaged in non-local applications of violence

Yet.

The PRC has been internationally relevant for a few decades. The US has been internationally relevant practically since its founding.

And for whatever reason, people don't think the PRC has continuity with pre-Mao China -- which has been internationally relevant since long before the US existed, and which doesn't have a very nice track record.

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by toohotatopic on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @05:22PM (#22313460)
In this regard, this submission could be interesting:

Who Was Sun Tzu’s Napoleon? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22296312

>Millennia later, during the Second World War, Mao Zedong seized on this historical vignette to announce that the Chinese Communist forces would not abide by any political, military, or moral limitations in its fight against the Japanese, stating: “We are not Duke Xiang of Song and have no use for his asinine ethics.”

Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by tjpnz on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @11:41AM (#22310290)
Belt and Road Initiative
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by env123 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:03PM (#22310500)
Opium wars
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by blaser-waffle on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @02:02PM (#22311656)
Not the US
Re:US says it can prove Huawei has backdoor access to mobile... by toohotatopic on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @05:25PM (#22313481)
But close:

>Opium profits funded many leading Boston institutions. Thomas Perkins and a brother helped found Massachusetts General Hospital, left, and Perkins donated one of his homes for a new school that ...

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2017/07/31/opium-boston-hi...