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Re:Rotary Cellphone by rsync on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:28AM (#22309542)
You click the handset down, like you are hanging up the phone, but just very briefly.

So think of the cradle switches - what "hangs up" the phone - as a button, and you just click that button (quickly) for '1' and then you pause and hit it twice in very rapid succession for '2' ...

You need to be on a POTS line to do this, of course, but it will work even today. Even if you have no dialing mechanism, you can dial the phone this way ...

Re:Rotary Cellphone by tkmunzwa on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:18PM (#22310621)
> You click the handset down, like you are hanging up the phone, but just very briefly.

This brings back memories, this is a trick people my age group mastered as teenagers in a 3rd world country. All calls were billed - including local ones, so parents would commonly get lockable cages that would cover the buttons/rotary dial to prevent unauthorised calls in their absence. The cages would leave the receiver accessible even when locked in order to be able to receive calls, so we would use the hook to do pulse tone dialing; dialing a number with many zeroes was always a challenge since it required 10 rapid taps as part of a longer sequence, but I built up muscle memory.

The practice was colloquially named 'tap-dialing' and it was handed down from generation to generation. Sadly it came to an end in the smartphone world.

Re:Rotary Cellphone by dublin on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @02:19PM (#22311808)
The old GTE payphones up in Georgetown, Tx (suburb of Austin, now) when I was a kid would let you dial with the switchhook - no coins required. Agreed, zeroes were a pain, but this was partially compensated for by the fact that 5-digit dialing worked for any local number, e.g. 3-1234 got you 863-1234. Interestingly, most VoIP adapters support the pulse dialing of an old phone, but very few have the cojones to actually ring one that has a physical bell rather than an electronic ringer...
Re:Rotary Cellphone by pomatic on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @04:49PM (#22313172)
Er, I'm not sure where you got this information from, but I can tell you categorically that ATAs that support pulse dialing are few and far between. Source: I have a vintage phone collection and wish bitterly the reality were different. (I use a Avaya PBX as a bridge to asterisk/IP telephony as a practical alternative)
Re:Rotary Cellphone by Someone on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @04:53PM (#22313208)
That’s because the traditional physical bell needs a high voltage (relative to the digital circuits in modern hardware).

https://www.epanorama.net/circuits/telephone_ringer.html:

”The voltage at the subscribers end depends upon loop length and number of ringers attached to the line; it could be between 40 and 150 Volts.”

I think they also (relatively to the hardware in a VoIP adapter) need a large amount of power.

So, to ring that bell, you need to transform your 5V/3V/…, and you need a larger power circuit. That isn’t worth it for the few who still have an old-style telephone.

Re:Rotary Cellphone by kragen on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:03PM (#22314997)
I think you need the high voltage anyway, even for a fake bell. The power is probably the problem.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by defnotarobot on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @07:52PM (#22314388)
I've seen some grandstreams that'll run a ringer.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by therealidiot on Thursday February 13, 2020 @01:50AM (#22315839)
Second this, I've had no trouble ringing an old GPO 746 telephone (and very loudly) with a Grandstream HT802
Re:Rotary Cellphone by C1sc0cat on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:26PM (#22310706)
It was also an old school way of phreaking and getting free calls in a phone box.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by kragen on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:00PM (#22314987)
I was very surprised a couple of weeks ago, making a call on a fixed-wireless 4G modem with a phone jack on it, that it supported pulse dialing. (The handset plugged into it happened to be set for pulse, you see.)
Re:Rotary Cellphone by maxerickson on Sunday February 16, 2020 @08:10AM (#22341391)
I wonder if something like that would get implemented to address a historical regulatory requirement.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by TrickyRick on Thursday February 13, 2020 @03:45AM (#22316261)
Ah, thanks! I grew up using a rotary dial phone but of course was too young to think that much about how it actually works. Learned something new today!
Re:Rotary Cellphone by ObscureScience on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:42AM (#22309695)
It's been awhile since I tried it, but isn't it n+1 presses to dial n? So you can dial 0 with one click.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by AKrumbach on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:52AM (#22309797)
No; if you look at an old rotary phone, you're counting the number of finger holes in order to determine pulses.

To dial a 0, pulse the line 10 times.

Re:Rotary Cellphone by pomatic on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @04:50PM (#22313183)
Unless you are in New Zealand - the dial is numbered "backwards" there so 0 is 1 pulse etc.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by toby on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @05:51PM (#22313676)
Oh wow, thank you for the memories :) I grew up in New Zealand when everything was pulse dialing and had an American modem that my father got us, so in order to dial any phone number I had to rewrite it by subtracting every digit from 10.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by ObscureScience on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @06:42PM (#22314001)
It seems I remembered correctly. I'm from Sweden and we use the system I recalled. All of you correcting me are right with regards to most other countries.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by __void on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:51AM (#22309792)
"0" was coded with 10 pulses
Re:Rotary Cellphone by wiml on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:52AM (#22309799)
No, 0 is ten pulses.
Re:Rotary Cellphone by ObscureScience on Thursday February 13, 2020 @05:29AM (#22316652)
As I said, not in Sweden.