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Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by taneq on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @10:54PM (#22305581)
It's the curse of SAE Level 3. The driver is responsible for monitoring a system that works fine 99% of the time, they start to feel a false sense of security and when it does fail they're not paying as much attention as they need to be.

This is also why SAE autonomy levels are a poor measure of a vehicle's capabilities, but that's another rant.

Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by WheelsAtLarge on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @12:22AM (#22306044)
I heard of a similar situation, there are times when trains almost drive themselves so the engineers don't need to pay much attention. The problem is when things go wrong and they need to act. Sometimes the engineers are so involved in other things that they fail to act.

That's one of the theories given for the cause of the 2008 Chatsworth train crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chatsworth_train_collisio...

Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by qeqeqeqe on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:14PM (#22305708)
It's still safer than not having it.
Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by taneq on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:45PM (#22305880)
Arguably no, it's not. This is why Waymo stopped working on level 3 and switched to level 4/5 systems. It's also why most vehicle manufacturers up until now have only supplied ADAS features which provide backup to the human driver (lane departure warnings, emergency braking assistance etc.) rather than features which drive while using the human driver as backup.

There are a few coming out soon (SuperCruise, Pro Pilot) that will offer some degree of level 2/3 operation. It'll be very interesting to see how that goes liability-wise.

Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by _-___________-_ on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:36PM (#22305837)
Not if it requires constant supervision, yet lulls the driver into a false sense of security such that they are predisposed to not provide that constant supervision.