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Re:The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake by rayiner on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @01:06PM (#22300805)
> From my perspective, religious traditions that have offered social support, but only with strings attached, resorting to shunning when those expectations weren’t met, have caused so much trauma to people I love that I am, at least in unguarded moments, quite happy to acknowledge that I want to break down the economic foundations of those groups.

I think this often is true, and its unfortunate. At the same time, I think people overlook the effect on other people. What about the people who fit into church culture and weren't excluded in the past? Are they doing better or worse under a culture that embraces permissiveness? Put differently, in an effort to minimize the harm that a religious society imposed on one group of people, are we disregarding the benefits it provided to other people, and to social stability and cohesion generally?

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