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Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by 1123581321 on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:04AM (#22299478)
One of the troubling aspects of all this was John Gruber’s decision to intentionally lie about Stallman and only write a correction after the intended effect had occurred. (Intentional because there was no effort to counteract the effect his original story had on the anti-Stallman effort.) https://daringfireball.net/2019/10/correction_regarding_an_e...
Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by HoustonRefugee on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:07AM (#22299499)
Isn't that how cancel culture works? You talk smack until the damage is done and put out a correction saying "whoops, I was wrong"? Politics needs to get out the business of destroying people's livelihoods.
Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by pjc50 on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:57AM (#22299983)
Why have you turned "repeat someone else's misattributed anecdote" into "decision to intentionally lie"? Isn't that the kind of thing people are complaining about here?
Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by 1123581321 on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @12:05PM (#22300064)
That’s fair. dang admonished me for my wording as well.

I had written it that way because journalists can choose how carefully to fact-check what they write, and how much energy and timeliness they apply into corrections. This gives journalists an ability to “optimistically” publish errors and give misunderstandings narrative momentum. I believe Gruber wielded those tool in his Stallman piece and the correction, and I thought the proof was that he did not to try to correct the perception resulting from his original story. But, as dang said, I don’t have a mind-reader, so I had broken the site guidelines by writing as if I knew that for sure.

Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by n9 on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @12:54PM (#22300646)
I think you are underestimating a factor here. RMS spent many years of his life traveling around, sofa surfing, giving talks. There are probably tens of thousands of people that have hosted him or facilitated his being onsite with them in some way.

If even a third of those people had something resembling my two experiences with RMS than the anti-Stallman effort as you describe it is a tiny thing compared to the thousands of people in the industry that have come to know RMS personally well enough to look at the reports and find them more than plausible. Or, in my case and seemingly in many others, look at the reports and say to themselves, "I saw him do this, I know that he does this, I should have done something about it at the time."

In summary: I think that it goes a long way to explain MIT's decisions and what you may be perceiving as a general lack of support in the community to point out that thousands of people had first hand experiences with RMS that fit with the picture being painted. The reports were not isolated. They were many. The fact that they were not acted on earlier is criminal. The fact that they were finally acted upon is just.

Re:How the cancel culture was leveraged against RMS by gdy on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @11:30AM (#22299722)
Shouldn't he pay for it in more serious way than just giving an apology which almost no one would read?