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Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by nofunsir on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:18PM (#22285875)
“Unwillingness to support content creators”

We are under absolutely NO obligation to support them. They like to talk. We may or may not like to listen. They are the digital equivalent of HAM radio operators, and Spotify is acting like worse than a leech on a free and open system.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by eropple on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:57PM (#22286070)
This "steadfast denial that we live in a society" thing is getting pretty old.
Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by badfrog on Sunday February 09, 2020 @10:03PM (#22286096)
> They are the digital equivalent of HAM radio operators

That is really overlooking a lot of time, effort, and money that many people and companies put into their podcasts. A lot of the best journalism and story telling in the world is in podcast form right now. That won't be the case for very long if the creators can't monetize their work.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by stonogo on Sunday February 09, 2020 @11:18PM (#22286408)
Are you asserting that HAM radio operators do not put a lot of time, effort, and money into HAM radio?
Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by majos on Monday February 10, 2020 @10:01AM (#22289631)
Do HAM radio operators write scripts, pay people to appear, generally...put on entertainment? I’m genuinely asking. I thought HAM radio was mostly chatting, or occasionally broadcasting useful info during a disaster.

Also: note that restricting entertainment to that which is provided for free is a big restriction.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by Barrin92 on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:41PM (#22285985)
>They are the digital equivalent of HAM radio operators

this isn't really accurate any more. A lot of podcasts these days, in particular, the ones Spotify seems to pick up, are professionally produced audio dramas or documentaries that come with significant cost.

Look at some of the more popular ones like Homecoming with Oscar Isaac, Blackout with Rami Malek or Carrier with Cynthia Erivo, those guys and the teams behind it don't work for free.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by daveFNbuck on Sunday February 09, 2020 @11:50PM (#22286496)
Even seemingly low-budget podcasts take a lot of work to put together. I used to do a 30-minute weekly tech news podcast with a friend. For that, I spent several hours each week clipping news stories, then another couple of hours picking the best ones to cover, reading more about them and taking notes for the podcast.

After the podcast was over, it took about an hour or two to listen through carefully and edit the podcast down to something pleasant to listen to, removing the crosstalk, pauses, weird noises, and things I wish we hadn't said.

People who care more about their podcasts and have longer podcasts spend much more time researching and editing. That time has a lot of cost, especially for people with demanding jobs and families.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by hombre_fatal on Monday February 10, 2020 @12:25AM (#22286608)
Even the most selfish "podcasts should be free for me!" person should be able to understand that they also benefit selfishly when people can make a living making the content they prefer instead of hoping a hobbyist has free time to do it. But this isn't always so.

Imagine all the books that never would have been written if we seriously thought free Reddit r/writingprompts fiction should be good enough for anyone. "Fiction should stay open and free!"

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by daveFNbuck on Sunday February 09, 2020 @11:42PM (#22286476)
No one is suggesting that you're obliged to pay for the media you consume. You just have to understand that podcasters aren't obliged to provide free media.

Producing podcasts costs money. If listeners aren't paying for the costs, someone else has to. If the podcaster can't afford to pay these costs, they'll end up going to someone like Spotify rather than bankrupting themselves for our entertainment.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by Spooky23 on Sunday February 09, 2020 @10:19PM (#22286182)
Spotify is thinking like Netflix... They are in the business of taking your attention, and spoken word audio is a more cost effective means of doing that.

Look at all of the money made in the 90s Premier Radio Networks, Westwood One, etc. They aggregated content ranging from conservative babble to psychology shows to Art Bell and did very well. Podcasts could be a similar phenomenon as radio dies out.

Eventually AM and FM radio will be auctioned off to cellular carriers, and networks like Spotify will take over. The current podcast ecosystem only exists due to the benevolent dictatorship of Apple. That can go poof any day.

Re:Will Spotify Ruin Podcasting? by ohmaigad on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:48PM (#22286022)
And podcast creators have no obligation to not sell themselves to Spotify...