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Re:Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU by eindiran on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:03PM (#22272895)
Colloquially people talk about the flu as if its like a cold but a little worse. But the flu can be very serious: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

Fevers of 5+ degrees F (lasting 3-5 days), chills, aches, chest pain, etc. And complications (eg pneumonia) are fairly common and can be deadly.

I would wager that most "flu" cases people self-report aren't actually the flu.

Re:Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU by 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:14PM (#22272964)
People that talk this way about the flu most likely have not had the flu, or at least not a “full flu”. I came down with it in a year when the flu shot was particularly ineffective and that was enough to end any deliberation with the flu shot for me ever again.
Re:Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU by jacquesm on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:26PM (#22273029)
How about paralysis?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/guillain-barre-sy...

Not directly caused by the flu but correlated, fortunately quite rare.

Re:Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU by eindiran on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:31PM (#22273061)
Interesting. I has heard the link between GBS and the flu vaccination before (since all the flu vaccine questionnaires mention it), but that article suggests there's evidence that the flu is more likely to cause it than the vaccination, which is supported by this article:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19025491