That's not true for Lenovo Thinkpads, which is a separate business division from Lenovo consumer hardware, as far as I am aware. And subsidizing consumer hardware with spyware has, unfortunately, become a standard industry practice. Most smartphone and Smart TV manufacturers are shipping their consumer devices full of bloatware that is extremely hard to get rid of.

It is entirely true for Thinkpads. In fact I wasn’t even really aware of their consumer line. All of what I mentioned occurred on Thinkpads.

And maybe spyware is a standard industry practice like you said. In fact, I’d agree that’s very true. But this is a MacBook thread and I’ve yet to see such a practice on Apple laptops.

I don't get the second part of your reply.

So what? Take it lying down?

For non-Apple consumers I see only two options now: to avoid consumer-level hardware (unless it runs something like Android One), or to replace the OS with an open-source alternative (Ubuntu and Fedora work pretty much out of the box on most PCs). In case of Smart TVs, one either has to buy a Commercial TV[1], or run something like Kodi[2].

[1] https://www.lg.com/us/business/commercial-tvs

[2] https://kodi.tv/

> And subsidizing consumer hardware with spyware has, unfortunately, become a standard industry practice

Not at Apple.