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Re:Boeing identifies new software problem on grounded 737 Max by salawat on Thursday February 06, 2020 @02:38PM (#22259499)
>It's clear we can't use our existing languages and tooling to make high quality software.

Gotta fundamentally disagree with you right there. We absolutely can make high-quality software with our current tooling. The issue is that doing that is expensive and time consuming, and the Market optimizes on good enough to be sold and not dropped.

This expense and difficulty isn't an inherent fault of the tools, but rather the monstrous other side of the coin in proving what your system isn't.

There are many implementations that are composable to generate an end result, the trick is to expend the energy to ensure you've made the specific one that also doesn't run into undefined behavior, domain specific or otherwise.

You will never escape from the tyranny of having to clearly communicate to a perfectly obedient machine exactly what it is you want it to do; part of which is being able to identify when you don't have all your requirements right.

Re:Boeing identifies new software problem on grounded 737 Max by thawaway1837 on Thursday February 06, 2020 @03:57PM (#22260199)
Airbus has been doing it for a while. The big difference between Airbus and Boeing has been how much more reliance Airbus places on technologies like MCAS vs straight up pilot skill.

Airbus has designed their planes to counteract bugs by adding tremendous amounts of redundancies. The Max is Boeing’s effort at creating an Airbus like plane without the redundantsafety features.

Re:Boeing identifies new software problem on grounded 737 Max by rayhendricks on Thursday February 06, 2020 @06:29PM (#22261590)
That is why I refuse to fly in anything that has Boeing on the side of it. Based on the 737 max fiasco and previous incidents they it looks like they are willing to make compromises in safety for profit. The regulatory agencies including the FAA here in the USA are captured and thus irrelevant, and the attempt to fix them died https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture#Federal_A...

Unless we see fines based on a percentage of revenue or the CEO/Board of Boeing being thrown in prison, then we won’t see change.