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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by tathougies on Thursday February 06, 2020 @01:12PM (#22258516)
> So this study is kind of saying "The children of ambitious and effortful parents have higher rates of upward mobility than the general populace of US people"

But this is also important to note, as the common zeitgeist of the day says that upward mobility is impossible, but it is clear that with ambitious and effortful parents, children can have higher rates of social mobility. That is encouraging?

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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by datashow on Thursday February 06, 2020 @01:19PM (#22258600)
Not really encouraging. You can't make parents more ambitious and effortful.

This is basically saying personal efforts matter. I believe this is not most upward mobility advocators want to hear.

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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by leftyted on Thursday February 06, 2020 @01:44PM (#22258894)
It only fails to be encouraging if you're ideologically opposed to the theory that "personal efforts matter".
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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by tathougies on Thursday February 06, 2020 @02:24PM (#22259353)
> This is basically saying personal efforts matter. I believe this is not most upward mobility advocators want to hear.

Surely you're not implying that 'upward mobility advocates' mean that people will magically become richer while doing nothing?

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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by datashow on Thursday February 06, 2020 @02:26PM (#22259370)
There are people thinking all need to be done is just "fix the system" and then people who were making efforts will be selected.
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Re:Children of immigrants have higher rates of upward mobili... by huherto on Thursday February 06, 2020 @01:42PM (#22258871)
It is encouraging because these particular children have upward mobility.
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