Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by freewilly1040 on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @12:46PM
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There's a pretty clear conflict of interest between the Buttigieg work of helping his campaign and the caucus tabulating work for the DNC. There might not be actual foul play, but the reason we look to avoid conflicts of interest in things like this is that it's easier to establish a lack of conflict of interest than it is to establish a lack of foul play.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by esoterica on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @01:27PM
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Most people working in politics have done work for a zillion other candidates and the state/national party apparatus before. That’s the nature of political work; campaigns only last a few months so people are always job hopping. If that counts as a conflict of interest than every staffer for every single candidate is guilty of a conflict of interest.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by freewilly1040 on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @01:59PM
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You're supporting my point. If a staffer worked for a campaign and in a role in charge of election integrity at the same time, as this firm is doing, it would indeed be considered a conflict of interest.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by kelnos on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @02:33PM
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I think the parent's point is that if you only consider contractors/staffers who don't have conflicts of interest of this sort, your hiring pool drops to a number that is too small to be useful.
Whether or not that's true is debatable, but I think it's a compelling point.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by mattrp on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @03:04PM
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>your hiring pool drops to a number that is too small to be useful.
That's why it's called a swamp.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by abnry on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @12:12PM
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Nobody creates a ledger in their accounting books called "money from bribes". At the very least, you can argue there is a conflict of interest.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by markhalonen on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @11:43AM
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lol that totally clears potential corruption
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by dariusj18 on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @04:25PM
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Yeah, I guess Republicans can never use Drupal, because a lot of Democratic money went towards it. Can anyone use Windows anymore? Certainly no cloud service can ever be used.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by RickJWagner on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:53PM
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Democrat money went to Drupal? Can you please describe further? (Just curious, it sounds like a good story.)
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by dariusj18 on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @09:20AM
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I'm trying to find sources on it (gave up but it's out there somewhere), but as I remember the Obama campaign / digital team used a lot of Drupal and contributed to the project as well. Then after Obama became President his administration pushed Drupal pretty hard. In addition people from the administration went on to work/lobby for Acquia.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by mattrp on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @03:02PM
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pretty sure you're right but also pretty sure people with a sound ethical worldview wouldn't be simultaneously engaged in text banking and vote counting...but then these are the people who also thought it would be funny to name their company "Shadow." The only thing more laughable is that no one in the state of Iowa apparently had a reason for concern prior to last night.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by tempsy on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @11:57AM
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Biden and Gillibrand use them for similar services but paid far less than Buttigieg.
I would want to see how much other campaigns paid for textbanking software but that seems unusually expensive.
Re:Democrats Declined DHS Offer to Test Caucus App
by fuqmachine on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @12:05PM
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100k is a lot more for that software compared to what Biden paid.
This company produces the textbanking software that the Buttigieg campaign uses. It's frustrating to watch people repeating the phrase "received money from the Buttigieg campaign" with the implication that it's a bribe when the actual situation is that both the Iowa Democratic Party and the Buttigieg campaign used the same contractor for some software.