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Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by moomin on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:02AM (#22235020)
The UK, and in particular the north east are well worth looking into here. All paper ballots, no counting machinery, 30,000 voters (smaller than Iowa but of a similar order of magnitude), voting from across the constituency (no cramming into halls), pretty much zero fraud. Accurate results within two hours of the polls closing.

The ballots are also kept and can be verified by the voters after the fact.

No state in America has any excuse for running an election less effectively than Sunderland.

Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by 7777fps on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:17AM (#22235154)
To elaborate on this, the entire country does this on the same day to vote in our general elections and it scales to 70m+ people without any issue. The reference to the North East and Sunderland is that they are usually the first to declare around 2 hours after the polls have closed. Most other constituencies take between 7 and 12 hours to count votes through the night.
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by andygates on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:19AM (#22235182)
The UK has very simple ballots, though: one bit of paper, one pile to count. America has a whole raft of issues voted at the same time, which complicates counting sufficiently that machines are more attractive.
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by thomk on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:36AM (#22235330)
Sorry could you expand on that a bit more? You only vote on one thing at a time?
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by moomin on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:41AM (#22235371)
Typically you’ll only be dealing with elections: General Election, Local Election, Mayoral Election, Regional Parliament Election, (until recently) European Parliament election.

Each of these is a different piece of paper, but on any given Election Day it’s rare (but not unheard of) to see three at once.

Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by Tyrek on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:42AM (#22235385)
UK is under a parliamentary system; effectively, the only vote is to select your local representative. Everything else (who wins the Government, what issues get passed, etc.) is derived from this single point.
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by dragonwriter on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @12:35PM (#22238395)
> UK is under a parliamentary system; effectively, the only vote is to select your local representative

That's true at the level of national government, but there are separate elections for different levels of government.

It's as if in the US you voted just for the House of Representatives, the Senate was unelected (which, get, historically it was) and the House elected the President.

Instead, the US started out with the same thing, except we elect an entire separate body (because we still didn't trust the people to do that, plus we wanted to make sure that citizens of slave states were overrepresented in executive elections as well as in the Senate) just to elect the President, and then later we decided to make the Senate accountable directly to the state electorate, too.

Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by thomk on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:46AM (#22235420)
So you do not personally vote on (as an example) how much money goes to schools? Your representative does that voting for you. Is that correct?
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by beobab on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @09:27AM (#22235835)
You are correct. The typical voter does not vote on how much money goes to schools.
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by growse on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @08:56AM (#22235515)
The UK is a representative democracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy).
Re:App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequat... by thomk on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @09:17AM (#22235740)
So is the United States.