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Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by V-eHGsd_ on Monday February 03, 2020 @09:13PM (#22231696)
I think it's that, now, everything is to feed the ad business while back in the day, it wasn't.

back then, they had lots of cool products, and they also served ads. now they have ads and lots of products the siphon data from users to feed the ads business.

I say this as someone worked there for a decade and saw lots of "NSA - not search or ads" t-shirts.

Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by anaanymouse on Monday February 03, 2020 @09:21PM (#22231742)
Even less data is being used for ads than when you worked there - Gmail is no longer used, Photos doesn't use them, Android doesn't except insomuch as the Google search bar exists on the home screen, Maps barely has ads...
Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by mehrdada on Monday February 03, 2020 @09:48PM (#22231881)
> Gmail is no longer used

Any evidence of that? Enterprise GSuite is not supposedly used, but consumer Gmail not feeding into ads would be surprising to me. Android feeds location and contacts data.

Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by subb on Monday February 03, 2020 @10:23PM (#22232060)
Not much evidence, but they stopped reading emails to target ads a while ago. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-23/google-wi...

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en

Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by mehrdada on Monday February 03, 2020 @11:14PM (#22232327)
Thanks. That's insightful.
Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by V-eHGsd_ on Monday February 03, 2020 @10:01PM (#22231942)
> Maps barely has ads...

maybe you're using a different version of maps than I am, but I just downloaded it and the first page is chock full of ads, it begs me to turn on search history so it can show me "more relevant results".

it's also full of dark-patterns like if I click "commute" in the settings, there's no back "<" like there is in most views, but there's a nice blue "turn on" and a grayed out "no thanks".

hell, when you finally disable the account linkage (another dark pattern hiding that option), the main window is still 25% (+) ads.

https://imgur.com/a/IMg3PQf

Re:Alphabet announces fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 re... by topicseed on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @02:23AM (#22233220)
Not sure what the screenshot is meant to show but... There is not a single ad on it.