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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by 0xff00ffee on Monday February 03, 2020 @07:41PM (#22231086)
I've been driving for 40 years. I still hate 4-way stops.

In the late 70's in Connecticut, I was taught the first person to arrive goes first, followed by the person to their right and so on.

But there are so many holes with that heuristic itself! And putting aside guilt and anxieties of humans that prevent them from being assertive or committing--it's just a cluster fuck.*

However, I have noticed that people are becoming more comfortable with zipper merging in major cities on both coasts, so if we could arrive at some consistent 4-way stop rule that's 1) succinct, and 2) easy to remember, I have hope. :)

[* I'm referring to San Fran and the South Bay... but still better than my experiences driving through Italy and in Bengaluru!]

Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by dheera on Monday February 03, 2020 @08:24PM (#22231384)
In California 4-way stops are often never marked "4-way" like in some other places. Whenever you come to a stop sign you have to inspect the crossing road to see whether or not it also has a stop sign. Often you stop and wait several seconds for a crossing car, only to realize that they also have a stop sign.
Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by 72deluxe on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @05:31AM (#22234114)
Sorry for the dumb question but what is a 4-way stop? In the UK we have roundabouts (but many drivers still have no clue which lane to get into, and don't migrate to the lane on the left after passing an exit, like they should).