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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by dx87 on Monday February 03, 2020 @04:13PM (#22229176)
The car stopping if another car goes before it brings up another issue. If self driving cars start showing up on the road and are recognizable, you'd be able to "bully" the self driving cars since you know it'll always give right away. Imagine being stuck on an on-ramp behind a car that is programmed with infinite patience and extreme risk aversion; you could be sitting there quite a while.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by kodablah on Monday February 03, 2020 @04:43PM (#22229509)
That's not the real issue, that's just the initial domino. The real issue is how self-driving companies will combat that. They'll surely want to record film at all times and have a pipeline to law enforcement to curb suspected bullies. It's often the over-correcting solution that becomes the bigger problem. There are analogues in other human-robot interactions.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by bdamm on Monday February 03, 2020 @06:17PM (#22230454)
Waymo resolved this early on by encoding the human resolution into the action. Stopping as required by law, then moving forward slowly until the next action is more clear.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by solidasparagus on Tuesday February 04, 2020 @01:35AM (#22233006)
Waymo 'resolved' this by not driving in areas where people intentionally fuck with self-driving cars.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by gowld on Monday February 03, 2020 @07:57PM (#22231194)
Imagine if cars were given the same authority to generate citations as redlight cameras and schoolbus cameras. They'd be cheap to free and financed by kickbacks from law enforcement.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by ghostbrainalpha on Monday February 03, 2020 @05:20PM (#22229937)
The human driver can always take over if the car isn't being aggressive enough.

Also the feeling of "how long" is too long to wait changes a lot when you are in more of a passenger mindset.

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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by TaylorAlexander on Monday February 03, 2020 @06:45PM (#22230665)
In a Tesla, yes. But the idea is for these algorithms to work without anyone in the driver seat.
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Re:Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video] by allannienhuis on Monday February 03, 2020 @04:22PM (#22229276)
I imagine if enough self-driving cars were on the road, that would be less of a problem, because more regular speeds & distances between cars would allow for more opportunities for merging. Perhaps even between-car negotiations of merging or 4 way stop type of behaviour.

I think we're quite a ways away from that though - hopefully not as far away as the flying car thing :)

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