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Re:Google Maps Hacks by nateburke on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:32AM (#22217062)
I am wondering what the minimal monthly data plan cost would be to have this working continuously on your street.

In a suburb, surely 20 phones would be enough, no? At $30/ month maybe somewhere between 500 and 600 per month?

Re:Google Maps Hacks by nannal on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:36AM (#22217081)
You don't need lots of cell phone plans, just one with a wifi hotspot.
Re:Google Maps Hacks by eli on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:46AM (#22217129)
Though that assumes they haven’t implemented even trivial filtering of bogus data.
Re:Google Maps Hacks by beefield on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:09AM (#22217569)
I guess you do not need a data plan. Or even phones. Just spin up n android emulators and spoof them with the gps data you want? (Disclaimer: I fully expect that to break multiple TOS clauses so I take no responsibility whatsoever if anyone tries this one.)
Re:Google Maps Hacks by copperx on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:52AM (#22217840)
It's a bit naive to think that Google doesn't have a filtering rule that says "only consider real phones with a true GPS signal".
Re:Google Maps Hacks by beefield on Sunday February 02, 2020 @01:01PM (#22218258)
This may be a bit naive question, but how does Google know that the virtual phone is not a real phone and the signal is not true? In a way that is not spoofable?
Re:Google Maps Hacks by jtsiskin on Sunday February 02, 2020 @04:57PM (#22219740)
They can likely consider only 1 device per IP address. Unless the region is blanketed in strong public WiFi
Re:Google Maps Hacks by beefield on Sunday February 02, 2020 @05:17PM (#22219848)
I thought NAT was widespread with mobile providers making that difficult?
Re:Google Maps Hacks by JorgeGT on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:26AM (#22217682)
Hm, a hostile nation state could cause some serious economic damage this way. Maybe they're already doing it?
Re:Google Maps Hacks by crystaldev on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:54AM (#22217854)
Yea that's enough HN for today.
Re:Google Maps Hacks by pjc50 on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:47AM (#22217136)
Just do it on wifi. With a bit of spoofing you could "move" all the phones up and down the street while they're in your basement.
Re:Google Maps Hacks by judge2020 on Sunday February 02, 2020 @09:58AM (#22217178)
Google spun-off Niantic and I hear they have pretty good anti-GPS spoofing algorithms/NNs (for Pokemon Go), I wouldn't be surprised if they use the same or similar tech for GMaps.
Re:Google Maps Hacks by lanerobertlane on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:13AM (#22217594)
As someone who uses a spoofer app for Pokemon Go, the anti-spoofing is pretty limited.

There is a "you can't go 500 miles in 10 seconds" style check, that checks your displacement against your previous position periodically to makes sure it's realistic,

something that makes sure your GPS is always drifting a little, like a normal phone GPS would report (which the spoofer app builds in),

and other little things such as if it has camera permissions and you take a photo in game, the location in the photo metadata matches your in game location.

I usually play in my house in the North of England and regularly spoof the app to be in London, New York, Paris Mall or Tokyo.

Re:Google Maps Hacks by judge2020 on Sunday February 02, 2020 @11:26AM (#22217681)
Interesting, guess I shouldn't have such high expectations..

But I still would think G Maps has a system to deal with spoofing; maybe they weight your data based on how reliable/valid your data is over time.

Re:Google Maps Hacks by heyflyguy on Sunday February 02, 2020 @10:46AM (#22217402)
Could you run one decently sized single board computer with 15 android virtual machines instead?