Re:Ask HN: How do we stop the polarization/toxicicity fillin...
by lotyrin on Friday January 31, 2020 @01:29PM
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Yes. Encountering the Apache Helicopter joke on 4chan is par for the course, but I just really don't want to hear it out loud from a coworker who is senior to me in a meeting room, and have everyone else laugh along with it.
Re:Ask HN: How do we stop the polarization/toxicicity fillin...
by iron0013 on Friday January 31, 2020 @02:52PM
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Yikes, if that happened at your workplace I hope you talked to HR about it. That’s a “joke” in the form of a death threat.
Re:Ask HN: How do we stop the polarization/toxicicity fillin...
by Mangalor on Friday January 31, 2020 @03:03PM
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But weren't "nerds" always just "people"? It's the interpretation of the culture that's changed as well.
Re:Ask HN: How do we stop the polarization/toxicicity fillin...
by chubot on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:40PM
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To clarify, in 1993 or even 2000, you could see a bunch of flame wars on Usenet, and you could ignore them because they "meant nothing". You could dismiss it as a nerd argument that's not connected to your life in the real world.
That was usually accurate. (Although I should say there were very intelligent people on Usenet, and that's why I used it. I learned a lot there.)
It's harder to do that now. You can ignore certain channels, but they spill out into the "real world" quite frequently.
To give a different example, UFC fighters pick fights with each other online, often on Instagram or YouTube. So what happens online is critical to the entire sport, which has grown a tremendous amount in the past decade. It determines whether they get paid $100K or $1M. Real life happens online now.
That's a somewhat random example but there are many many subcultures / industries where what happens on social media determines what happens in the real world.
I frequently see Twitter memes spoken from people's mouths in person. I mostly abstain from it, but like it or not, Twitter does matter.
I've also been online since 1993, and used Usenet for many years. Back then you could compartmentalize some argument as a bunch of nerds, but now it's just "people".
FWIW I also agree that the wisdom of "don't feed the trolls" has been forgotten. So in that way it's gotten worse too.