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Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by plandis on Friday January 31, 2020 @12:53PM (#22203749)
(I’m not a prosecutor) From the US perspective Assange is being charged with crimes that he willfully assisted and encouraged Manning by providing her with guidance on how to cover her tracks, etc. — basically charges related to abetting of a criminal act. Publishing that information is then not an act of journalist but that of a criminal who illegally aided in the gathering that information and then recklessly and illegal published the names of classified personnel.

So basically the charges seem to be pretty much predicated on the idea that Assange was a participant in the illegal obtaining of this information.

From the indictment statement [1]:

> The superseding indictment alleges that beginning in late 2009, Assange and WikiLeaks actively solicited United States classified information, including by publishing a list of “Most Wanted Leaks” that sought, among other things, classified documents. Manning responded to Assange’s solicitations by using access granted to her as an intelligence analyst to search for United States classified documents, and provided to Assange and WikiLeaks databases containing approximately 90,000 Afghanistan war-related significant activity reports, 400,000 Iraq war-related significant activities reports, 800 Guantanamo Bay detainee assessment briefs, and 250,000 U.S. Department of State cables.

> The superseding indictment alleges that Manning and Assange engaged in real-time discussions regarding Manning’s transmission of classified records to Assange. The discussions also reflect that Assange actively encouraged Manning to provide more information and agreed to crack a password hash stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRNet), a United States government network used for classified documents and communications. Assange is also charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to crack that password hash.

Additionally, the claim that he would not get a for trial in the US is utterly farcical. The claim that you would wind up with a rigged jury is provided without any evidence whatsoever.

[1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/wikileaks-founder-julian-assa...

Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by chishaku on Friday January 31, 2020 @01:18PM (#22203972)
> utterly farcical.

He's being tortured but at least he'll get a fair trial.

Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by plandis on Friday January 31, 2020 @03:45PM (#22205506)
I disagree with what you're saying for a few reasons:

1. The claim that Assange is being tortured is being made by a single individual as their personal opinion, and 2. The claims of torture are from actions taken by the governments of the UK and Sweden

The actions of foreign countries have no bearing on if he would get a fair trial in the US; the two ideas are not correlated at all.

Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by chishaku on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:22PM (#22205905)
1. The article covers many details. What evidence informs your personal opinion that the observations and judgement of the UN Special Rappoeteur on Torture should be discounted?

2. You seem to be indicating that actions by the UK, Sweden, and Ecuador are happening completely independent of any coordination with or influence from the US government. I don’t believe that you believe that.

Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by kmlx on Friday January 31, 2020 @03:36PM (#22205402)
who's being tortured? assange? is this a joke?
Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by chishaku on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:11PM (#22205787)
No, it’s very serious. The article covers many serious issues with the case. Please read it.
Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by wang_li on Friday January 31, 2020 @08:53PM (#22207991)
Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial for crimes is like claiming to be tortured by people who post opinions that disagree. Absurd on its face.
Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by chishaku on Friday January 31, 2020 @09:25PM (#22208154)
> Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial

No one claims this. Please read the article.

If you believe the claims of the UN Special Rapporteur are without merit, please provide your evidence and/or reasoning.

Re:UN special rapporteur on torture on his investigation int... by wang_li on Friday January 31, 2020 @09:40PM (#22208236)
> Julian Assange has been intentionally psychologically tortured by Sweden, Britain, Ecuador and the U.S.

The only thing the US has done is try to get him extradited to prosecute him. I suppose the argument can be made that he's not afraid of trial, but rather of being incarcerated for his crimes.

Also the second paragraph:

> And third, he is to be extradited to a country that holds people like him in prison conditions that Amnesty International has described as torture.

> [...] could be tortured to death in the United States.

Sorry, but these are just melodrama.