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Re:The spine of San Francisco is now car-free by gumby on Thursday January 30, 2020 @12:24PM (#22193213)
Cities more than 100 years old weee not built around cars. Streets were used quite differently back then and are again in cities with “no car” zones.

And the “10s of miles” issue can change back; the car was the forcing function for that, not the other way around.

Re:The spine of San Francisco is now car-free by gowld on Thursday January 30, 2020 @01:27PM (#22193825)
The US population is 3x as large as it was in 1920. France is 1.5x. Most Americans don't live in places designed before cars.

Even the old megalopolis NYC was redesigned for cars over 50 years ago. (Robert Moses)

Re:The spine of San Francisco is now car-free by gumby on Friday January 31, 2020 @11:23AM (#22202875)
Well the inverse was true 100 years ago. It's not implausible that someone could make a similar statement a century from now:

"The US population is 3x as large as it was in 2020. France is 1.5x. Most Americans don't live in places designed for cars.

"Even the old megalopolis NYC was redesigned away from cars over 50 years ago. (Moses Roberts)"