Re:U.K. Police Will Soon Be Able to Search Through U.S. Data...
by tluyben2 on Thursday January 30, 2020 @01:44AM
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It will be hard to fight this. Even if fighting it now, it will happen at some point in the (near) future anyway. And it will broaden.
The big problem is that most people (voters) will simply say; catching terrorists (or criminals in general) is good, they do not care about losing a bit of privacy! Maybe they would care if they knew all the consequences?
In Spain you cannot film public spaces (cctv or otherwise) without permission of the persons you film, owners of cars you film etc. The fines are pretty high. The mayors of towns around here have been fighting the police (not the normal police but the Guardia) from putting up cctv to catch criminals. And with success; no cameras anywhere where I am, in any of the towns around me. If someone hangs one up at their house that points to the street, they will pay fines and have to remove it; they drive around and check.
Law enforcement is not as strictly held to the privacy laws but they also cannot do what they want; they need permission, the equipment is costly as it needs to be stored in ways that protects the public and accessing it is very restricted to actual crimes in the location.
The people ‘in the bars’ are against all of this; they want cctv cams everywhere (with facial recognition if they know what it is) they can be put to catch burglars and robbers. So it will happen eventually. Not today, but soon-ish, when there is enough pressure by voters.
Re:U.K. Police Will Soon Be Able to Search Through U.S. Data...
by bmking on Thursday January 30, 2020 @03:06AM
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Which part of Spain are you referring to? Because at least in Valencia I was surpassed to find a ton of cctv in public spaces like parks and busy streets.
The big problem is that most people (voters) will simply say; catching terrorists (or criminals in general) is good, they do not care about losing a bit of privacy! Maybe they would care if they knew all the consequences?
In Spain you cannot film public spaces (cctv or otherwise) without permission of the persons you film, owners of cars you film etc. The fines are pretty high. The mayors of towns around here have been fighting the police (not the normal police but the Guardia) from putting up cctv to catch criminals. And with success; no cameras anywhere where I am, in any of the towns around me. If someone hangs one up at their house that points to the street, they will pay fines and have to remove it; they drive around and check.
Law enforcement is not as strictly held to the privacy laws but they also cannot do what they want; they need permission, the equipment is costly as it needs to be stored in ways that protects the public and accessing it is very restricted to actual crimes in the location.
The people ‘in the bars’ are against all of this; they want cctv cams everywhere (with facial recognition if they know what it is) they can be put to catch burglars and robbers. So it will happen eventually. Not today, but soon-ish, when there is enough pressure by voters.