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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by shakna on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @10:02PM (#22176872)
1/3rd of people is more than statistically significant, so yes, it does support that conclusion. That solitary is bad for your health, and worse than general prison life.
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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by monoideism on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @10:52PM (#22177202)
> 1/3rd of people is more than statistically significant, so yes, it does support that conclusion.

It decidedly does not support the conclusion. The percent of the population studies were those who had filed a lawsuit about solitary confinement. This is the definition of a biased sample.

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by shakna on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @10:55PM (#22177234)
> Anything other than solitary is torture.

This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed.

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by monoideism on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:06PM (#22177307)
1) You're replying to the wrong comment.

2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted?

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by shakna on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:24PM (#22177431)
> 1) You're replying to the wrong comment.

Are you not in this thread? [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176652

> 2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted?

You didn't like that study? And thus refuse to have any other conversation? Fine. Lets have some more.

[0] https://www.themarshallproject.org/documents/3234404-Aiming-... - The government knows it is harmful, and is tracking and pushing for reduction of its use.

[1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... - It increases mortality after release. (Study where N=229,297).

[2] https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us1012ForUpl... - It stunts the growth of juveniles and leads to a variety of mental health problems.

[3] http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2015/spring/co... - Here's an earlier study that also covers the hyptension systems already mentioned.

[4] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cbm.627 - In juveniles, it increases recidivism, and causes mental and physical health problems.

QoL indicators from all studies are showing problems. Solitary Confinement is above the threshold where it can be safely used against any one person.

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by monoideism on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @08:40AM (#22180306)
> And thus refuse to have any other conversation?

Where are you getting this stuff? I never said anything about refusing to have any other conversation. And you responded to the wrong comment above. You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work.

Are you confusing me with other HNer again here?

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by shakna on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @09:02AM (#22180524)
> Are you confusing me with other HNer again here?

Nope.

> You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work.

That's exactly how thread topics work. That's the context of the conversation.

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