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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by abeppu on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:19PM (#22176168)
You're really fixated on your hypothetical habitual mugger. By appealing to some unquantifiable suffering on the part of the victim, you seem to want readers to accept an implicit claim that any cost to imprison a person, for any duration, under any conditions must be acceptable and justified.

Prisoners also are victims, and suffer trauma. It seems roughly 1/5 male inmates are assaulted by guards, and roughly the same number are assaulted by other prisoners. And then there's sexual assault, which has glaring gaps in reporting.

I think there's an obvious question we should be asking here -- when does incarceration cause more violence than it prevents?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/attacks-and-ass...

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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by harimau777 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:36PM (#22176291)
To clarify, how would you suggest we factor in the non-monetary harm caused to a mugging victim?
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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by tropo on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:42PM (#22176322)
It shouldn't even be physically possible for a prisoner to assault another prisoner. I'd even give the prisoners privacy so that they can't see or hear each other. Oddly, people argue that it is somehow cruel to protect the prisoners from each other. There is no pleasing everybody, and some people can't ever be pleased.
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Re:First Maine inmate enrolled in graduate school conducts r... by shakna on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:26PM (#22176598)
> It shouldn't even be physically possible for a prisoner to assault another prisoner. I'd even give the prisoners privacy so that they can't see or hear each other. Oddly, people argue that it is somehow cruel to protect the prisoners from each other.

Solitary confinement is cruel. It isn't protecting one prisoner from another.

Solitary confinement increases the chance of heart attack, hypertension and stroke by 30% [0]. That's because it is a stressful environment that people are not meant to function in.

[0] https://massivesci.com/notes/cardiovascular-health-compariso...

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