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Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:07PM (#22176090)
Enforce valid caller ID on calls coming from VoIP.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by dvtrn on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:27PM (#22176225)
How do you enforce that with how disposable DIDs are?

It is trivially easy to acquire a block of numbers from any number of sources with easily falsifiable information, connect them to a SIP application to robocall/robotext victims using easily falsifiable CID data and disappear just as trivially.

Programmatic voice via SIP trunking only makes this worse-not critiquing services like Twilio, Plivo or Telnyx, just highlighting one of the unfortunate risks the technology available to us enables.

CID enforcement is a grand idea but I have no clue how you'd actually accomplish it.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by toomuchtodo on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:27PM (#22177441)
SHAKEN/STIR

https://www.zdnet.com/article/at-t-comcast-successfully-test...

https://transnexus.com/whitepapers/understanding-stir-shaken...

Doesn’t solve the problem entirely, but makes it easier to identify and blacklist robocall operations using heuristics, rate limiting, etc.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by ianwalter on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:03PM (#22176456)
Passing regulation requiring audit logs sounds like a good first step.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by nostrebored on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:48PM (#22176365)
What does this look like to you? The CNAM presented on a SIP call should be authenticated against what?
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @12:29AM (#22177751)
How about the number? If I'm making a SIP call on, say, Alianza, shouldn't what I present as my number for Caller ID match what Alianza thinks my number to receive calls is? Or, if I'm a large organization, shouldn't it at least be one of the numbers registered to my organization?

I may be able to spoof the name. The number? Not so much.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by nostrebored on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @02:17AM (#22178239)
You also send your number as part of the invite. Responsible VoIP providers limit this to numbers you own, but it's totally possible to send calls using a number you don't own. There are CNAM databases but not all carriers make use of them and they aren't a source of truth. How would your solution deal with numbers which go back into a carriers pool? How would your solution deal with newly claimed numbers? How do you verify the numbers on file for an organization?
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @11:42AM (#22182544)
I was thinking along these lines: It may be possible to send calls using a number I don't own. It should not be possible to send calls using a number that the VoIP provider doesn't own. If I'm sending a VoIP call to someone's cell phone, and I'm saying that I'm a cell phone in the same block of numbers as the destination phone, a responsible VoIP provider should block that, even if they don't restrict me only to my number.

But we both used the word "responsible". I think that's the problem - there are some irresponsible VoIP providers. Maybe even deliberately irresponsible. For obvious reasons, they attract the spammers and scammers. And that brings us back to this lawsuit as a reasonable response to that kind of irresponsible behavior.