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Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by miles on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @04:58PM (#22174532)
FTA, Tesla making the case for a vegetarian diet:

"[V]egetarianism is a commendable departure from the established barbarous habit. That we can subsist on plant food and perform our work even to advantage is not a theory, but a well-demonstrated fact. Many races living almost exclusively on vegetables are of superior physique and strength. There is no doubt that some plant food, such as oatmeal, is more economical than meat, and superior to it in regard to both mechanical and mental performance. Such food, moreover, taxes our digestive organs decidedly less, and, in making us more contented and sociable, produces an amount of good difficult to estimate. In view of these facts every effort should be made to stop the wanton and cruel slaughter of animals, which must be destructive to our morals. To free ourselves from animal instincts and appetites, which keep us down, we should begin at the very root from which we spring: we should effect a radical reform in the character of the food."

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by badger_bravo on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @06:47PM (#22175487)
I support the vegetarian movement from the perspective of cruelty, sustainability, and eco-friendliness. My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie diet is superior (regarding mechanical and mental performance) has been disproven. Anecdotally, of the people around me, I've seen no correlation in the top athletic/career achievers to any kind of diet. Rather, balanced and disciplined eating seems to correlate.

Are there any good sources for a particular diet/restriction that correlates with mechanical or mental performance? Anecdotally the top performers I know generally balance meat/fruit/vegetables, eliminate sugar, and follow other common nutrition knowledge without committing to any particular diets or restrictions.

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by cesnja on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @03:42AM (#22178595)
> Anecdotally the top performers I know generally balance meat/fruit/vegetables, eliminate sugar, and follow other common nutrition knowledge without committing to any particular diets or restrictions.

What you describe here is also set of particular diets that include many restrictions. The only difference is these restrictions are not considered extremely incompatible with the common diet.

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by miles on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @07:06PM (#22175646)
> My understanding is that Telsa's belief that a veggie diet is superior (regarding mechanical and mental performance) has been disproven

See James Cameron's "The Game Changers":

https://gamechangersmovie.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM

https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by ceej01 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @07:31PM (#22175824)
Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by miles on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:10AM (#22177930)
As you shared Rogan's episode 1389 "debunking" The Game Changers, it seems only fair to include the followup episode 1393, which addresses the claims in 1389: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI
Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by miles on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @07:38PM (#22175881)
Beyond question or debunking: the world-class athletes featured in the film have achieved their successes while on pure plant-based diets.
Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by bumby on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:38PM (#22176711)
Possible for some vs optimal for most are two different things. There’s also a lot of confounding variables, not to mention PEDs at the top level of most (highly compensated) sports.

I wish a plant-only diet was optimal across the board but so far I haven’t found the right one that is the case for me personally.

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by agumonkey on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:23PM (#22176578)
Honestly do we need full veganism to make a dent in both Eco-friendliness and personal health ? a bit of meat would be alright and most of the negative of worldwide mass production
Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by nradov on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:03AM (#22177893)
That is false. Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs. It's a propaganda piece, not to be taken seriously.
Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by miles on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:08AM (#22177915)
> Some of the athletes featured in the movie did consume animal products such as eggs.

Can you please share who that was? And corroborating links?

Re:The problem of increasing human energy (1900) [pdf] by bumby on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @08:32AM (#22180237)
Nate Diaz is one:

""Speaking about his plant-based diet, the athlete said: "I'm going on and off.

"I was a complete vegan for eight years, but I would dabble into some seafood every now and then.

"Now, I dig fish.""

https://www.plantbasednews.org/culture/athlete-on-off-vegan-...