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Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:31AM (#22169653)
> The worst thing is that the forced over-simplification of the UI features did not make it easier to use for beginners. I can see many people (including myself) struggling. So we have been forced into a "compromise" with all the downside, but none of the upside.

I wholly disagree, at least at the beginning. When the original iPad was released, I remember seeing multiple viral videos of two-year-olds being given iPads and instantly figuring out how to use them. At the time, this was surprising.

I think we've forgotten just how simple iOS was in the Steve Jobs era. You had a grid of objects, and when you tapped an opbject, your device became that object until you transformed it back with the home button. There was no control center, no notification center, and no app switcher—even when Apple added "multitasking" in iOS 4, it took the form of a little bar, not a new view.

I'm not ready to say Apple should get rid of Notification Center, because it's pretty darn useful. But I would like a single kill switch in Settings which turns all these features off. Then I could enable it for my grandmother.

The iPad, for its part, should be simpler than the iPhone, because simplicity is the iPad's reason for existence. Laptops exist because they are (and continue to be) the most efficient way to get things done. The iPhone exists because it's a relatively capable device that fits in your pocket.

And the iPad exists so you can browse the web and watch Netflix in a focused and leisurely way. iPads also make these tasks accessible for people who are not familiar with computing and will be more comfortable a simpler environment.

By attempting to make the iPad as capable as a laptop, Apple is taking away the iPad's very real original use-case in service of a use-cases for which the iPad is inherently ill-suited. And for what? To compete with a class of product which Apple already makes?

2010 iPads were great at what they did, and 2010 Macs were great at what they did. I legitimately don't understand why 2020 Apple is now on a mission to conflate these two product lines. Even if Apple succeeds at making the iPad as capable as a Mac, what will all their work have accomplished?

Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by int_19h on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:49AM (#22178114)
Side note: the physical Home button that brought the device into a well-defined state was a godsend for new users. I observed this with both my parents and my grandparents: whenever they got "lost" somewhere, the fact that they could always press that button (and don't have to look for it! it's always in the same place, it's not auto-hide etc) and get to a familiar place, made things a lot easier. Oftentimes they'd use it in lieu of other, faster ways of getting from here to there - but I figured it's more important that they can get there.
Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by Balanceinfinity on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:29AM (#22170890)
I have to disagree - the ipad shouldn't be simpler than the iPhone - it should be binary: simpler for the grandparents, powerful enough to compete against a surface. When I travel, I'm only taking 1 big screen. The ipad should replace my laptop for trips where I don't have to work a bunch.
Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:35AM (#22170964)
> simpler for the grandparents, powerful enough to compete against a surface.

The UI of a 2010 iPad could replace your laptop on trips. If you just need a device to occasionally keep tabs on email and review photos and bring up websites, the iPad has always been great for that.

If you need to do anything more intense, the one device you bring really should be a laptop, especially as we become able to engineer laptops that are increasingly small and light.

I don't think it's possible to develop a UI that is both as capable as a traditional computer and as simple and intuitive as early versions of iOS. The more actions you add, the harder any action is to discover.

Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by Balanceinfinity on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @03:26PM (#22173695)
The surface comes pretty close.
Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @03:44PM (#22173838)
The surface is just a "standard" computer in a different form factor. It has both the utility of a standard computer and the complexity that comes with it.

I would love an OS X tablet, and I'm looking into making a Hackintosh one (it can be done). But it's not going to be an iPad, just like an iPad in a laptop case isn't a laptop.

Re:The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by ashonalla on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @04:51PM (#22174453)
>> people who are not familiar with computing

It's pretty amusing that IOS and Android are likely the reason that it's the year 2020 and "people who are not familiar with computing" still exist.